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hey guys Ryan Sprague here from

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somewhere in the skies and welcome to a

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very special live stream tonight if

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you've been paying attention on our

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social media you know what's coming at

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you tonight especially with that intro

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we are going to be reviewing John

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Carpenter's The Thing from 1982 a movie

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that I admittedly have never seen and

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both of our guests tonight two of my

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closest friends and colleagues uh

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couldn't believe that and a lot of you

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couldn't believe it either but I finally

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watched the thing what did I think of it

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what did they think of it we're gonna

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get into all of it tonight so without

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further Ado I only have them for a

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limited amount of time so we are gonna

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get through this thing and uh and it's

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gonna be a lot of fun so thank you for

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joining us guys without further Ado

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let's bring them in we have Nicholas

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westermeyer we have Andrew Sanford

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welcome back gentlemen hi hey hello

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welcome welcome I can't believe I have

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you both in the same digital room this

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is the first time we've done this since

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I think uh God the found footage one

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okay okay yeah yeah that was a while ago

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so I know Nick and I did Halloween

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recently which was it was okay movie's

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very uh uh controversial I guess for

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many horror fans but uh this one's gonna

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be a lot of fun alien themed so I know a

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lot of our audience is gonna dig that

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but um let's get into it guys

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um what is your history before we even

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get to it with this movie have you seen

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actually was kind of like you I didn't

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watch this movie until Halloween so

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because I miss both you guys and

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thing and my brother's like 47 years old

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so obviously this is like this is Peak

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him right like this is one of his his

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favorites I was like I gotta watch this

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movie so I first time I had seen it um I

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loved it I have a lot of thoughts about

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it but I thought it was just brilliantly

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executed except for one thing which I'll

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bring up later ooh we'll get there how

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okay okay what's your history with this

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movie I uh did not

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really go on dates or hang out much uh

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particularly remember purchasing this

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um and I remember watching it and being

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absolutely Blown Away by what I ended up

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saying I apologize if you hear my

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children in the background but they're

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great so I don't super apologize they're

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no silver sense

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sorry no spoilers in the chat J Ellen

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Heineken says no spoilers Jalen Heineken

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this might not be the time to watch this

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man because we are going heavy that's

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right that's what these movie reviews

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are for I apologize buddy but go watch

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the movie come back and watch this it'll

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be here forever now it's now on the

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yes exactly cool all right well that's

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cool um I will I just saw this for the

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first time a couple days ago and then I

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watched it again today so it's fresh in

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my mind I'm ready to talk about it um

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let me get I'm such a professional I

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have a slideshow you've come ready Ryan

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so far in these things oh you love it I

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go I go out I go all out for these movie

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reviews I should probably be doing this

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more for the actual summer in the sky

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um so but no I love doing this you guys

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exactly this and this is this is like

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the other side of me that a lot lot of

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the people who follow my work don't

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really know about I'm a screenwriter I'm

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a playwright I'm a huge sci-fi nerd too

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and I love movies so I I really do like

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um as you guys know so why don't we just

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go through the um the quick you know uh

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um I guess history of this this is from

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1982 John Carpenter uh directed by John

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music by enio maricone uh who was mostly

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known for westerns uh so we'll talk a

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um the effects were by Rob bottine I

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about him tonight uh who worked with

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23 years of age at the time when he made

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the effects for this movie wow doesn't

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that make you feel like how was I doing

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um that being said he was a little in

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over his head with this movie and they

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had to call in someone to come help him

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scenes in this and who was that none

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um Stan Winston came in to uh kind of

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save the day on a lot of these effects

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too so uh yeah yeah a lot of people

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um let's get to the cast starring Kurt

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Russell a Wilford Brimley The Diabetes

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guy yes thank you

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um who I love love love I didn't know

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this Andrew you might know this keep

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David narrated the entire Monday night

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he or WWF WWE he did a few of them too I

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so damn familiar and then when I looked

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main villain in that too wasn't he oh

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was he I think so and also I think it is

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like I don't use the term Legend lightly

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first of at least two Carpenter

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um they live yep I've not seen it with

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that that iconic fight scene with um

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um well and what's really cool too is

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actors prior to this oh interesting

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um let's go through a quick plot

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synopsis before we dive into the actual

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movie guys in remote Antarctica a group

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of American Research scientists are

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helicopter shooting at a sled dog when

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both human beings and canines in the

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camp and they discover the Beast can

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assume the shape of its victims a

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resourceful helicopter pilot played by

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Kurt Russell and the camp Doctor Richard

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Dysart lead the camp crew in a desperate

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gory battle against the vicious creature

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before it picks them all off one by one

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from another world which Carpenter was a

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huge fan of um it's based on a 1938

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novel who go goes there

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um yeah which actually Carpenter stayed

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more faithful to that than the actual

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um Toby Hooper was originally at the

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um what else the entire cast like I

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not least and we'll get to the end of

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the movie obviously but Universal

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um in this review uh let's do it guys

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um hello to everyone in the chat I need

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to just get through this so I'll try to

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put your chat up um guys if you really

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want me to see them put them in the

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did I say super no I said super because

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theater training right there

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speaking of which I'm drinking a winter

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warmer beer from bedfordshire I thought

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it was appropriate for tonight I'm

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drinking a blade and blow damn blade

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because you know whiskey in this movie

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is heavily relied upon all right J and B

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responsible whatever wherever it doesn't

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images here too if you're watching this

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on YouTube this will be an audio format

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too so um in that case we're doing a lot

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of visuals tonight guys so look at that

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audio go watch this YouTube version

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right now the sweater I know the bottom

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left like what a looker man where is

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this feeling dude where did they film

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this like the actual show

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um they filmed a portion of this in

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Alaska uh and I've got a clip actually

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that I might play um of how miserable it

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Alaska and Brilliant dude amazing and

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Kurt Russell where he looks like really

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sickly and Frozen they The Sound Stage

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make it like actual freezing in the

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sense right right

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of how like how great this movie is but

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man the idea of somebody being like look

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don't tell the actors or maybe do tell

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the actors or whatever they did but just

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crank it down crank the temperature down

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take a great take it break it right down

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make sure I want them to know they're

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called they're let's say but John

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they're actors they're gonna act no no

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no no no no no no no no I want them yeah

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freezing

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Andrew I did I saw a horror movie where

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I did a scene it was in Ohio if any of

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you from the Midwest you know that Ohio

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in like February is just [\h__\h] brutal

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um and we did that I had to be shirtless

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in a unheated warehouse and I can tell

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you

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that's not at least they have coats

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because like holy [\h__\h] it's it's not

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good like all the pain is real it's just

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real is have you been in a movie where

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you weren't shirtless no why would you

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have why would I ever get casting

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someone else I swear to God every movie

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This Guy's in they're like

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um can you take your shirt off hired

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listen you just gotta pay the bills

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buddy yep I get it I get it man no

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you're starting it is what it is okay no

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oh there's the group there's our group

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photo guys our whole crew

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um isn't that they look so so happy

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this starts um let's let's talk about

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the opening scene uh first of all

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um the actual opening scene which I'm

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going to be honest I didn't really dig

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we're in space in a UFO is flying to

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Earth oh my God and I know you hate you

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hate those things yeah UFOs

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it just it completely I don't know it

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wasn't what I was expecting this movie

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to open up to I just wanted like a shot

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of like desolate Antarctica that's why I

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wanted this movie to start

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um I have a feeling that opening UFO

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coming to Earth was definitely like um

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not a John Carpenter choice I could be

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completely wrong

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um but I feel like they're like we need

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to establish aliens are coming to Earth

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so let's literally show the UFO coming

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coming to the planet I don't know am I

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wrong because you see the UFO later so

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it's like I mean it's there and it is

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but like it's not necessarily I think a

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shot that's needed in in terms of

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establishing Story the only

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the reason I would say yes keep it is

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because yes we do see that ship later

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but that's a it's a while like it's a

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while before we get that information and

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I do think

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it kind of at least gives you for

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because I and I think we see this a lot

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in other um

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um

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story because a lot of the TV shows

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movies and things like that have ripped

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off this story Ad nauseam at this point

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um oh yeah yeah I mean technically this

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is a you could call it a rip-off or

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knockoff or whatever

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um

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but the idea of finding something under

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the ice I don't mind them almost

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immediately clarifying like hey this

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thing isn't from here because I do think

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you could easily have that other almost

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even like confusion of like well has

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this thing been here for whatever's

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attacking them has it been here a while

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is this like something that they

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Unearthed that's been hiding or

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something that's new what I would I I

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will say like I I could understand there

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being some confusion in the fact that we

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don't find out until later that that

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spaceship was Landing

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millions of years ago I think they say

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like it's pretty yeah yeah it's pretty

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ten thousand or ten thousand like they

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it's you know it is established that

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whatever it was has definitely been here

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for a while but it's not from here and I

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do also think that that opening could be

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looked at more as like a nod to the

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original film that Carpenter loves so

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much so like you know what I mean kind

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of got that b sci-fi movie feel yeah and

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it also is just like it's like look he

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does something vastly different both in

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tone

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um and a a well not vastly different in

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story but tonally especially

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um and the way that they portray the

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monster so

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I think it's almost like him going like

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hey you know

382
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I still love that other I love that

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other thing I like the other like he

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said pain homicide yeah yeah yeah yeah

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yeah good point you know as far as like

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an establishing image goes

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um

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the story is about an alien being out in

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the middle of nowhere so they show us an

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alien out in the middle of nowhere uh

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the middle of nowhere

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I agree with all that it's just I'm so

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basic like and again no no no right or

394
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wrong way to watch a movie I'm gonna own

395
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my basicness in this I'm not saying it's

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wrong I'm just saying I'm basic

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um then I'm like because I know these

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movies age and so the Practical effects

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in this I'm sure we'll talk about are so

400
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[\h__\h] good like they're so good and

401
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they have yeah this movie made me again

402
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appreciate practical stuff um as I

403
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always do like but that was like the one

404
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thing where I'm like oh that didn't age

405
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well no yeah um yeah I know but again I

406
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know that like that's just a product of

407
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which is why I said it's basic it's a

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product of just what it is sure

409
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um but in totality of all the effects in

410
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this movie it's always like that shows

411
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up I'm like oh because the Practical of

412
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the ship in the snow looks great

413
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yeah the sets on this are pretty good

414
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they feel lived in and real and yes yes

415
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yeah I mean even the helicopter stuff

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like since we're kind of beginning like

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I love it's funny how much you forget

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what that looks like as a as a viewer in

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um

420
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watching movies like to see an actual

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[\h__\h] helicopter like them using using

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a real helicopter as opposed to

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something that is digitally altered or

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CGI or CGI not real like you feel it all

425
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that grittiness and realism built this

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world really quickly and I forgot how

427
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much I missed that watching movies like

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how much I miss real [\h__\h] in a movie oh

429
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yeah to be fair sir Marvel does get all

430
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their military equipment real uh because

431
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they do not take any shots at the US

432
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military whenever they portray them in

433
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their films I did not know oh look

434
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you're seeing some real stuff because

435
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it's being loaned

436
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um

437
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you guys finish this review I will just

438
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oh peace out

439
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bye

440
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I don't I I think um to your put like

441
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I'm just being a jerk

442
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um I I think you're 100 right and

443
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there's there's it and it's it's tough

444
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as well

445
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um to play slightly Devil's Advocate

446
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because I've also been um oh what was it

447
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I was watching Andre I don't disagree

448
00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:54,299
yeah nothing beats practical effects

449
00:19:59,630 --> 00:19:56,940
um but it does come to and this kind of

450
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gets into the idea uh the conversation

451
00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:01,799
we were having about the temperature uh

452
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messing with the temperature

453
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is that sometimes it's like we're

454
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growing to a certain point where it's

455
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just like if we this movie were to get

456
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made now the dogs would probably be BCG

457
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um yeah I don't

458
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think that's a huge problem

459
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um mainly because I think it comes down

460
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to

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what would you prefer that you see this

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a dog on screen when there's supposed to

463
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be a dog on screen

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um but you know that that dog probably

465
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did not want to be there has no idea

466
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where it is got shoved into a truck when

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it was done and taken home and taken to

468
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another set the next day or are you just

469
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happy that like oh it's a CG it doesn't

470
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look great but no no animals

471
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that enforced labor at anybody I wonder

472
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if it would be both though I'm one of

473
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those things where like I wonder if

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they'd go the Del Toro way where it's

475
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like both where you get a real dog for

476
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those things that aren't aren't like

477
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super well and then CGI because that

478
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always what I love the most but well

479
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let's talk about it

480
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um we could talk about the dog for 10

481
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hours um probably the best actor in this

482
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yeah don't that's all [\h__\h] killed it

483
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man that dog deserves an Oscar right now

484
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if you give it like joint like him and

485
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Richard Mazer who we're seeing in the

486
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future right now the eventual uh

487
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president president of sag uh for a

488
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while he was also in uh he has a great

489
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turn as Stanley Uris and the IT

490
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miniseries from the 1990. that's who he

491
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is

492
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that face

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um he's great he's like that's a

494
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journeyman's actor if there ever was one

495
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but he had actually more than that he

496
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yeah he's fantastic but his chemistry

497
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with those dogs is so wonderful and he's

498
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probably the most like the most tragic

499
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character of the whole time because I

500
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know you you'd have every reason to

501
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believe that a tip that's been turned to

502
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do it at no no no it's not he's

503
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literally like one of the only ones not

504
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it will get there let's talk about this

505
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dog the movie opens this helicopter is

506
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coming in it's trying to shoot this dog

507
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very we don't know why really very

508
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poorly he missed like 10 shots I know to

509
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the point where he's like screw it I'm

510
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gonna throw grenades at this point yeah

511
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and we don't know why which I love I

512
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love this idea that like Okay

513
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um why what why is this happening what's

514
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what's up with this dog

515
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um so we come to find out you know the

516
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the helicopter that was chasing this dog

517
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eventually crashes

518
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um pilot dies the guy's shooting at the

519
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dog gets out he's speaking Norwegian to

520
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our Antarctica group here um this Navy

521
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research group and they have no idea

522
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what he's saying and um he starts

523
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shooting at them they shoot back and

524
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kill

525
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and um and then that's kind of where

526
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:56,520
this all starts to unfold

527
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um our our dog you know Wrangler here

528
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takes in this husky clearly it's

529
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traumatized because it was just being

530
00:23:10,669 --> 00:23:08,700
shot at and it becomes yeah yeah and um

531
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:10,679
they take this dog in probably the

532
00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:13,919
biggest mistake they could have made

533
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um so that's kind of our opening of the

534
00:23:20,450 --> 00:23:19,200
thing here we've got the UFO coming to

535
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Earth and then we have the scene with

536
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the dog

537
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um who wants to take it from here what

538
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:26,400
comes next what what stuck out to you

539
00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:27,840
yeah well next we kind of meet everybody

540
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:29,700
at the facility right like we kind of

541
00:23:34,730 --> 00:23:31,020
get yeah let's talk about that a little

542
00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:34,740
bit we've got 12 different guys yep yep

543
00:23:39,649 --> 00:23:37,080
um how did you think they

544
00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:39,659
how do you think they did we've got 12

545
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guys stuck in the middle of Antarctica

546
00:23:46,909 --> 00:23:45,360
um how'd they do character-wise I think

547
00:23:48,649 --> 00:23:46,919
they do I think everybody gets a nice

548
00:23:50,409 --> 00:23:48,659
little establishment everybody feels

549
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,419
different enough

550
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:52,080
that

551
00:23:55,370 --> 00:23:52,860
um

552
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,380
uh you kind of you can track everybody

553
00:24:00,770 --> 00:23:57,840
which is really key with uh dog was

554
00:24:04,430 --> 00:24:00,780
actually Daniel Day Lewis

555
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,440
um when you are you know trying because

556
00:24:07,370 --> 00:24:05,760
you're trying to be quick here like you

557
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:07,380
want to get everybody to know everybody

558
00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:09,659
but you don't want to linger too long

559
00:24:14,409 --> 00:24:11,960
um you definitely want to

560
00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:14,419
uh the

561
00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:17,220
connect with everyone but then you want

562
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:19,140
to get eggs and cold every Angry man

563
00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:20,280
everybody's killing it in the comments

564
00:24:22,909 --> 00:24:21,900
right now that we got some good

565
00:24:25,010 --> 00:24:22,919
commenters yeah yeah yeah yeah

566
00:24:26,930 --> 00:24:25,020
everybody's doing a great job uh yeah

567
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,940
but yeah I know I think the character

568
00:24:30,890 --> 00:24:28,559
work is really strong and I think it's

569
00:24:33,409 --> 00:24:30,900
why the movie stays endearing throughout

570
00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:33,419
and it you also you get Kurt Russell

571
00:24:37,850 --> 00:24:35,100
giving an incredible

572
00:24:39,649 --> 00:24:37,860
introduction where he's drinking and

573
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,659
playing chess and is losing to the

574
00:24:43,789 --> 00:24:41,760
computer chess and then just destroys it

575
00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:43,799
as in the response which is really just

576
00:24:47,390 --> 00:24:45,720
gives you what you need to know about

577
00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:47,400
him for the rest of the movie right off

578
00:24:51,409 --> 00:24:48,539
of that

579
00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:51,419
um absolutely yeah and you you kind of

580
00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:53,880
get the the impression that you know

581
00:24:59,870 --> 00:24:56,340
these guys have been here for a while we

582
00:25:02,690 --> 00:24:59,880
don't really know what their research is

583
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,700
but um I almost don't that's important I

584
00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:05,520
I just assume as many do that we always

585
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:09,000
have people military in you know

586
00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:12,840
involved up in the Arctic doing the [\h__\h]

587
00:25:18,289 --> 00:25:16,020
we know sciencey stuff the US has a

588
00:25:20,510 --> 00:25:18,299
presence there Canada does

589
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,520
um space force is located and that is

590
00:25:23,169 --> 00:25:21,600
not a joke

591
00:25:25,789 --> 00:25:23,179
um

592
00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:25,799
yeah yeah yeah because it's yeah I think

593
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:27,179
it's more like Greenland but I guess

594
00:25:32,049 --> 00:25:29,400
that kind of the screen that's normal I

595
00:25:34,730 --> 00:25:32,059
mean yeah but um they uh

596
00:25:38,529 --> 00:25:34,740
uh space forces up there is basically

597
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:38,539
like to keep an eye on uh space missiles

598
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:42,240
space and forces you know something that

599
00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:43,679
with these characters I felt really

600
00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:45,480
strongly and again looking at like time

601
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,860
is it felt again I agree with Andrew

602
00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:48,240
like I think you get a really good

603
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:50,340
establishment of they establish all

604
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:51,539
these people really well and I think

605
00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:54,720
that one thing they do successfully is

606
00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:56,220
that everyone's kind of a care like an

607
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,140
80s character like I was like oh I've

608
00:26:02,450 --> 00:25:59,760
seen all these characters in an 80s

609
00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:02,460
movie before if I'm watching John the

610
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:03,720
dead or any of those moves like it's

611
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,240
very it feels very similar and not in a

612
00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:08,940
bad way like it allows me it allowed me

613
00:26:12,169 --> 00:26:10,740
to be like okay I know who each of these

614
00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:12,179
guys are like you have like the stoner

615
00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:14,460
guy you're like oh he's the stoner guy

616
00:26:20,930 --> 00:26:16,860
copy got it you got Russell who's like

617
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,940
the like anti-hero hero guy who is fed

618
00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:22,440
up with where he's at but he's gonna do

619
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,880
it anyway

620
00:26:27,529 --> 00:26:25,919
um but I think that what Carpenter does

621
00:26:29,570 --> 00:26:27,539
so well in this is gives you those

622
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,580
characters but you like all of that

623
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,440
which is what I liked about the dog

624
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,840
trainer like you said like for him

625
00:26:36,409 --> 00:26:35,520
that cares when I was just like oh you

626
00:26:38,210 --> 00:26:36,419
like him immediately because there's

627
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,220
this very different relationship with

628
00:26:42,289 --> 00:26:40,559
the different people in that camp or

629
00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:42,299
like the general who like nobody likes

630
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:44,279
and you can tell off the bat nobody

631
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:45,900
[\h__\h] likes him

632
00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:48,000
um I just feel like it was a good use of

633
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:50,700
stock characters in a creative way like

634
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:51,840
they could have they could have been

635
00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:54,000
less than they were and Carpenter does a

636
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,700
good job at like building that out so

637
00:27:01,610 --> 00:26:59,520
you feel for her so you clock which I'll

638
00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:01,620
get to later so you start clocking each

639
00:27:06,049 --> 00:27:03,419
of these people because they're 12 is a

640
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,059
lot of people to fit into like to cram

641
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:08,880
into a movie like this sure right and

642
00:27:13,310 --> 00:27:11,400
I'm not gonna lie like they started to

643
00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:13,320
kind of blend together for me like I I

644
00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:15,779
did get confused on who was who at

645
00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:17,940
certain times and whatnot

646
00:27:21,769 --> 00:27:19,740
um but I think that kind of plays into

647
00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:21,779
this because you've got a quote unquote

648
00:27:29,930 --> 00:27:26,520
alien a thing that assimilates or or uh

649
00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:29,940
I guess becomes these people so

650
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:31,860
um I think that kind of plays to the

651
00:27:38,269 --> 00:27:35,279
aliens uh benefit you know that we don't

652
00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:38,279
really see a ton of character in each of

653
00:27:41,930 --> 00:27:40,020
these individuals because then they

654
00:27:43,870 --> 00:27:41,940
eventually become quote unquote the

655
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,880
thing and it almost makes it more

656
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,080
suspicious to figure out who's who

657
00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:48,000
because they don't have these very

658
00:27:51,950 --> 00:27:49,740
specific character traits so when

659
00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:51,960
they're acting a little weird we're kind

660
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,980
of like

661
00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:54,720
um that wasn't like the person I saw in

662
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,100
the beginning of the the movie they're

663
00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:57,840
clearly the thing I don't know I could

664
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:00,179
be totally wrong on that again you're

665
00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:02,580
probably seeing a huge cast well it's a

666
00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:04,020
huge cast I think a lot of that plays

667
00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:05,340
into the acting as well and like look

668
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:07,020
you're they're all it's not like they

669
00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:09,240
anybody like they're not like Power

670
00:28:12,289 --> 00:28:10,980
Rangers it's not like each person wears

671
00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:12,299
a different color or it's not like

672
00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:13,559
they're you know they're all dressed

673
00:28:18,409 --> 00:28:15,659
similarly they're all reacting to things

674
00:28:19,730 --> 00:28:18,419
into any similar kind of way um which is

675
00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:19,740
panic

676
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,900
um and I think they're also they've been

677
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:23,520
there long enough there's a lot going on

678
00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:25,980
and I think that has to do I think

679
00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:27,480
everything that you both have brought up

680
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:29,220
are like great points about them and

681
00:28:33,289 --> 00:28:30,720
they both work in the positive which is

682
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:33,299
that we we want to know these people but

683
00:28:36,169 --> 00:28:35,039
not know them too well but know them

684
00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:36,179
well enough that we can tell them when

685
00:28:39,529 --> 00:28:37,740
they're acting strange but also maybe

686
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,539
not be sure that they're acting strange

687
00:28:43,010 --> 00:28:41,039
because like oh maybe they're Justified

688
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:43,020
like they're you know a lot of that is

689
00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:45,600
tension and tone and it's the acting and

690
00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:47,820
it's Carpenter it's it's it a lot of

691
00:28:51,710 --> 00:28:50,039
things working at the same time so I

692
00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:51,720
think it's you know I think you guys are

693
00:28:55,549 --> 00:28:54,179
nailing nailing that on the head I also

694
00:28:56,990 --> 00:28:55,559
might be looking too much in this I feel

695
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,000
like this movie starts off immediately

696
00:28:59,630 --> 00:28:58,559
with questionable decisions and what I

697
00:29:01,610 --> 00:28:59,640
mean by that and this is where I'll get

698
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,620
to like my plot thing the [\h__\h]

699
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,360
General the main guy the main like

700
00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:05,520
military dude older guy breaking the

701
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:07,559
goddamn window to shoot his gun I'm like

702
00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:08,880
you are in the middle of the Arctic and

703
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:12,120
you're breaking not the best choice yeah

704
00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:14,400
well there were some there's some

705
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,720
choices going on with this thing and

706
00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:17,279
I'll get into like we're like that to me

707
00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:19,740
is like a theme like people making

708
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:23,460
not smart choices but not smart choices

709
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,380
um but what would you do you know like

710
00:29:29,409 --> 00:29:27,840
we have the the you know the benefit of

711
00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:29,419
being in our lives

712
00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:32,760
amazing [\h__\h] cold yeah but you don't

713
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:36,179
necessarily got you Nick come on man no

714
00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:37,679
just let me replace that window I'll be

715
00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:39,000
great it's easy I know what you're

716
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:40,740
saying I get it

717
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:44,240
um well let's kind of get into okay so

718
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:47,460
Norwegians they're you know we don't

719
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:49,380
really know what's better than

720
00:29:59,870 --> 00:29:57,649
um they're dead now uh and we we don't

721
00:30:01,570 --> 00:29:59,880
really know what's going on we adopt

722
00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:01,580
their dogs

723
00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:05,220
the prequel film that came out in 2011.

724
00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:06,360
thank you very much I'm not gonna watch

725
00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:08,580
that film yeah we'll get there I've got

726
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:10,380
a little tidbit on that

727
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:11,279
um

728
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:14,520
so the dog they put it in with the other

729
00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:16,620
dogs they got a bunch of dogs here

730
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:19,020
um at this research facility

731
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:21,960
um to you know live with his own and

732
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:25,500
this is where the movie just goes to a

733
00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:26,940
hundred

734
00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:28,679
um they put the dog in this little

735
00:30:34,190 --> 00:30:30,899
canine cage with the others and

736
00:30:37,310 --> 00:30:34,200
immediately best acting again I've ever

737
00:30:40,930 --> 00:30:37,320
seen from an animal this dog the dog

738
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,940
like slow walking in is [\h__\h] great

739
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,440
and the other dogs start barking at it

740
00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:44,640
and growling because they know

741
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,820
something's up and then we get our first

742
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:49,279
kind of

743
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:52,200
John Carpenter moment

744
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,279
um

745
00:30:58,430 --> 00:30:56,399
who wants to destroy it first at first

746
00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:58,440
it goes into the room right they have

747
00:31:03,130 --> 00:30:59,820
the little moment where it goes into the

748
00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:06,769
and what's fun about that too and I

749
00:31:11,210 --> 00:31:08,520
think it could be wrong on this but if I

750
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,220
remember correctly for that particular

751
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:13,440
shot they use like a key grip or

752
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,559
something yeah they perfectly so nobody

753
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:18,240
could recognize them yes they use a

754
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:19,919
shadow of somebody who is not a cast

755
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,799
member in the film oh Andreas Andreas

756
00:31:29,649 --> 00:31:24,720
we're so sorry buddy we meant nothing

757
00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:32,930
what would be a Norwegian Cuisine that I

758
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:34,200
could make

759
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,779
um here in the U.S

760
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:38,159
get back to me when you get the chance

761
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:40,440
I'm trying to cook other kinds of foods

762
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:43,679
lately and I don't know what's I I I

763
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:45,539
um I don't you know I think there are

764
00:31:50,049 --> 00:31:47,760
the I don't know why I'm hijacking the

765
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,059
podcast for this I don't know there are

766
00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:52,799
uh certain like if you go to like you

767
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:54,840
know Mexico I'm gonna try tacos or if

768
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,520
I've got and even that sounds more basic

769
00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:57,840
than it actually is or like certain

770
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:59,460
regional foods

771
00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:00,720
um I don't know what there would be in

772
00:32:06,529 --> 00:32:02,700
Norway but I would love to know

773
00:32:07,789 --> 00:32:06,539
um oh never mind I uh actually the only

774
00:32:10,370 --> 00:32:07,799
movie I'll try I'll finally try it

775
00:32:13,870 --> 00:32:10,380
that's a I like fish hey I don't know

776
00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:16,490
I think that's baked like is that baked

777
00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:19,860
it's like a big big address what the

778
00:32:24,889 --> 00:32:21,320
hell is happening here

779
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,899
I think that lutefisk and this is based

780
00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:26,640
almost entirely off of an episode of

781
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:28,740
King of the Hill that I love that Lucas

782
00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:32,760
is not only a Midwestern uh Minnesota

783
00:32:39,010 --> 00:32:35,100
kind of delicacy as well but it is like

784
00:32:41,289 --> 00:32:39,020
fish that you bake like a casserole

785
00:32:43,930 --> 00:32:41,299
Plus hours

786
00:32:48,649 --> 00:32:43,940
we don't have the time tonight

787
00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:51,110
gold on my own show

788
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:53,220
um all right so

789
00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:55,980
despite Norwegian Cuisine

790
00:33:01,610 --> 00:32:58,260
um what what do we think of this first

791
00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:01,620
kind of um boating special effects we

792
00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:05,720
got going on where uh dog just gets

793
00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:08,340
destroyed it's [\h__\h] great man it is

794
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,640
great it is it is paced really well like

795
00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:13,039
just with the transformation is

796
00:33:19,130 --> 00:33:15,419
horrifying like one thing I love about

797
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:19,140
all the it Transformations like the just

798
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,279
like texture of it the like wet like

799
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:26,159
goopy like so you're you're you're just

800
00:33:28,669 --> 00:33:27,600
you're sucked into this thing that's

801
00:33:30,830 --> 00:33:28,679
happening

802
00:33:33,230 --> 00:33:30,840
and you're just both horrified and

803
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:33,240
disgusted in the way that it should be I

804
00:33:37,130 --> 00:33:34,440
feel like

805
00:33:38,509 --> 00:33:37,140
oh like you feel bad for the dogs but

806
00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:38,519
you just you're like what the [\h__\h] is

807
00:33:44,169 --> 00:33:40,980
this thing gonna do it's brilliant yeah

808
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:44,179
and it literally

809
00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:46,620
annihilates these other dogs

810
00:33:51,769 --> 00:33:50,100
um it's really sad uh you know like I

811
00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:51,779
knew going into this movie that I was

812
00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:54,360
going into a quote-unquote like kind of

813
00:33:58,909 --> 00:33:56,220
body horror movie

814
00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:58,919
um but I didn't know to what extent and

815
00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:02,000
I was eating chili when I was walking

816
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:04,980
no wonderful biggest mistake I could

817
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:08,159
have made and like I'm not exaggerating

818
00:34:13,369 --> 00:34:11,280
when I say like I almost I almost threw

819
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:13,379
up it was the first time I've watched

820
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:22,730
were you a parent when you watched

821
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:25,020
hereditary yet or no I was not no not

822
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,179
yet okay just I'm letting you know yeah

823
00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:29,040
yeah that [\h__\h] real like that happened

824
00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:31,260
my wife came upstairs and I was like oh

825
00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:33,080
search

826
00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:35,879
yeah sure sure that was the only thing I

827
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:37,560
had a hard time watching clerks three

828
00:34:43,369 --> 00:34:41,119
last night so I'm already it gets worse

829
00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:43,379
well that one I mean clerks three is

830
00:34:53,409 --> 00:34:44,580
heavy

831
00:34:57,770 --> 00:34:56,149
yeah watching horror with kids now I

832
00:34:59,150 --> 00:34:57,780
have a if anybody wants to I write for a

833
00:35:01,609 --> 00:34:59,160
website called pajaba that I love

834
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:01,619
p-a-j-i-b-a

835
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:03,780
um and if you look up like if you do

836
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:05,700
Google like pajiva Andrew Sanford

837
00:35:10,849 --> 00:35:08,880
Child's Play I wrote a piece about

838
00:35:13,609 --> 00:35:10,859
um watching child's play for the first

839
00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:13,619
time uh as did he mean to say that I'm

840
00:35:21,290 --> 00:35:14,820
sorry

841
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,300
um I think he meant guys I don't know uh

842
00:35:25,849 --> 00:35:23,040
watching child's play as a new dad was

843
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:25,859
the first time that I felt specifically

844
00:35:29,870 --> 00:35:28,020
affected by what I was watching because

845
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:29,880
of having children

846
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:33,660
um and I I have purposely not watched

847
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:36,960
films that I usually watch

848
00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:39,540
um for instance like pet cemetery that

849
00:35:44,290 --> 00:35:40,980
being said I did listen to the pet

850
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:44,300
cemetery audiobook in October so I was I

851
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:46,740
okay so I'm still steeped in there a

852
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:50,640
little bit dog dog guts getting sprayed

853
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:53,160
on that's another thing man those poor

854
00:35:56,329 --> 00:35:54,960
dogs didn't want to wake up that day and

855
00:36:00,910 --> 00:35:56,339
get sprayed in the face or whatever the

856
00:36:06,589 --> 00:36:04,550
ASPCA announcement of the night yes but

857
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:06,599
I know but it is it's incredible and

858
00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:09,599
it's it what's great too is it is and

859
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:11,400
this is the case

860
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,359
um with the uh monster all we know about

861
00:36:20,210 --> 00:36:18,000
it is that it can mimic and copy other

862
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:20,220
people we don't know how it does that we

863
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:23,520
don't know like oh we do learn at a

864
00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:24,960
certain point that it's at least on like

865
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,000
a very base like molecular level because

866
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:29,760
they can even tell if it's like if it

867
00:36:32,990 --> 00:36:31,740
has recreated your blood because it

868
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:33,000
would have had to do that so there's

869
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:35,579
like there's something very like

870
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,599
it is what is going on is beyond our

871
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:42,240
pers our human perception

872
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:45,540
um and because of that it frees the

873
00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:48,000
movie of doing too much Exposition it

874
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:50,700
allows us to stay firmly in all of the

875
00:36:56,450 --> 00:36:53,520
main characters uh POV which is very

876
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,460
effective so we feel confused by what

877
00:37:00,609 --> 00:36:58,560
they are confused by nobody has all the

878
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:00,619
answers which ratchets up the tension

879
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:04,079
except for Wilfred Brimley

880
00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:07,920
um but the having all the answers uh

881
00:37:14,329 --> 00:37:12,060
kind of makes him go nuts you know like

882
00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:14,339
which is very it's very Lovecraft in

883
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:16,260
that way the whole movie that's a really

884
00:37:18,829 --> 00:37:17,280
good question something I thought about

885
00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:18,839
watching movies I was trying to track

886
00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:21,060
like when people get infected if you

887
00:37:25,970 --> 00:37:22,740
even can right which I know is very

888
00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:25,980
ambiguous and I was wondering so

889
00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:29,880
so I was like is welfare is he is he

890
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,560
infected from the beginning and the

891
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:33,720
breaking of the we're he starts doing

892
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:35,400
like all the analysis right like how

893
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:37,920
long will it take uh the likelihood of

894
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:39,780
someone else being infected 75 how long

895
00:37:43,490 --> 00:37:40,859
will it take for the world to get

896
00:37:44,569 --> 00:37:43,500
infected it brings those numbers up and

897
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:44,579
so the first time I watched it I was

898
00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:45,839
like oh he's running these numbers and

899
00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:47,460
he freaks out because he realizes like

900
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:49,500
where this is gonna go but then

901
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,300
re-watching it because he clearly

902
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:53,520
spoiler towards the end is infected

903
00:37:59,089 --> 00:37:57,119
right is I was like well [\h__\h] is he

904
00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:59,099
infected then he's doing the numbers of

905
00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:00,839
how long it will take him

906
00:38:06,829 --> 00:38:03,420
to do this which explains why he starts

907
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:06,839
breaking [\h__\h] everything yeah I don't

908
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:09,359
know yeah I was like I could be wrong

909
00:38:12,829 --> 00:38:10,920
but I was like well maybe he already is

910
00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:12,839
maybe that's the choice he's making I

911
00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:15,180
don't know the only reason I would say

912
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:17,460
no is because I don't think it's an

913
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:19,740
infection I know where your head's at

914
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,420
and I yeah that makes a lot of sense

915
00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:24,000
what you're saying but because it gets

916
00:38:29,329 --> 00:38:26,579
down to the fact where if they like when

917
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:29,339
they test their blood and they find out

918
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:32,040
who is actually in fact or who is taking

919
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:35,579
or a recreation the blood moves like

920
00:38:40,849 --> 00:38:38,220
it's its own organism so by the time we

921
00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:40,859
are seeing a version of them that is the

922
00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:43,980
thing they are no longer them in any

923
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:46,920
semblance of of the word now that being

924
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,000
said

925
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:50,160
I can see what you're saying because

926
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:53,160
they still talk and act like them so it

927
00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:55,740
could be within that things nature to

928
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,740
say I am pretending to be this guy so I

929
00:39:02,690 --> 00:39:00,720
have to keep freaking out so maybe I'll

930
00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:02,700
just say this stuff and you never see

931
00:39:06,530 --> 00:39:04,140
when he gets taken like that's the other

932
00:39:08,030 --> 00:39:06,540
thing like when he gets he's in the

933
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:08,040
secure room everyone's inside that

934
00:39:12,589 --> 00:39:10,440
building which I'll get to in a second

935
00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:12,599
um but all of a sudden he is like he's

936
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:14,520
it and he's like building [\h__\h] chips

937
00:39:20,510 --> 00:39:17,520
and like and so I was like man is he

938
00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:20,520
is he like do is this is he this monster

939
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:23,160
even into that autopsy because like I

940
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,240
always think about the autopsy the

941
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:25,920
dude's hand gets [\h__\h] cut off but

942
00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:28,079
like during the autopsy he's taking [\h__\h]

943
00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:30,300
out and he's very chill about it like

944
00:39:35,450 --> 00:39:32,520
this thing isn't alive in a Michael Mann

945
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:35,460
maybe he's an alien and it's that's the

946
00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:37,320
long game it starts there I don't know I

947
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,000
get I maybe if I'm too deep into all

948
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:41,520
this no I honestly I think it's a fair

949
00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:44,400
question to ask and I I I I think what's

950
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,589
isn't an answer like yeah like there's

951
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:54,000
this is like Schrodinger this is the

952
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,480
beauty of the script um again what was

953
00:40:02,630 --> 00:39:59,760
the scriptwriter's name uh Bill

954
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:02,640
Lancaster I I just I love that

955
00:40:06,650 --> 00:40:05,520
everything is so perfectly paced in this

956
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:06,660
movie

957
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:09,599
um you know like I had some issues uh

958
00:40:15,290 --> 00:40:12,720
with overall story but like script wise

959
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:15,300
the pacing and that has a lot to do with

960
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:17,700
Carpenter too uh the way scenes are set

961
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,760
up you have these fade outs in this

962
00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:22,800
movie which you didn't see a lot in

963
00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:24,599
movies at that time

964
00:40:29,210 --> 00:40:26,460
um that was a very old school kind of

965
00:40:32,210 --> 00:40:29,220
technique of using fade outs yeah the

966
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,220
original like I think it was they did

967
00:40:35,870 --> 00:40:34,079
that too in the original but I also

968
00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:35,880
think it sets up like these are little

969
00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:38,280
scenes playing out so the minute you

970
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:39,960
kind of are comfortable in a scene and

971
00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:42,660
trying to figure stuff out it fades out

972
00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:45,480
and then we're thrust into the next

973
00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:48,060
scene that's about to unravel and figure

974
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,940
out who is the thing and who's not

975
00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:52,800
um I I do want to step back a little bit

976
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:53,820
here

977
00:40:58,730 --> 00:40:56,640
um with you guys before we move on um we

978
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:58,740
got to talk about when they actually so

979
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:01,680
they they retrieve these videos from the

980
00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:05,520
Norwegians and uh it shows them you know

981
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,820
going to this site where this craft was

982
00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:10,560
this UFO

983
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:12,900
um and they actually go to it and this

984
00:41:17,329 --> 00:41:14,760
is where they start to figure out whoa

985
00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:17,339
okay something something's messed up

986
00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:19,800
here there's a bunch of you know just

987
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,260
crazy crazy [\h__\h] going on

988
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,680
um they end up getting this creature or

989
00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:27,839
person that they bring back to the

990
00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:30,420
research facility and

991
00:41:35,329 --> 00:41:32,820
um and this is this is kind of where

992
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:35,339
things really get batshit crazy in my

993
00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:36,900
opinion where we start doing the

994
00:41:42,589 --> 00:41:39,300
autopsies and trying to figure out

995
00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:42,599
what's going on uh Brimley like you

996
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,700
mentioned is doing this autopsy and I

997
00:41:49,730 --> 00:41:47,040
love it because he's like taking out

998
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:49,740
these human organs and whatnot and he's

999
00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:51,300
just gone oh

1000
00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:55,079
yeah he's still good man you see he's

1001
00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:57,240
incredible like it is first of all

1002
00:42:02,089 --> 00:41:59,400
guttural reaction

1003
00:42:03,650 --> 00:42:02,099
S I don't wear a mask why is no one

1004
00:42:05,569 --> 00:42:03,660
wearing a master in this [\h__\h] I

1005
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:05,579
would not want like alien ship flying in

1006
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:13,550
he put it he put a pencil inside that

1007
00:42:20,030 --> 00:42:16,560
guy and then put the pencil behind his

1008
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:20,040
mother effing ear oh that's how much he

1009
00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:21,660
doesn't give a [\h__\h] so again that kind

1010
00:42:28,910 --> 00:42:23,820
of plays into like oh he doesn't care

1011
00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:28,920
like is he a thing already or is this

1012
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:30,740
just the way

1013
00:42:36,290 --> 00:42:33,060
biologists worked back then very

1014
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:36,300
haphazardly I don't know I I I I'm sorry

1015
00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:39,599
I I I need to ask um how old do you guys

1016
00:42:42,970 --> 00:42:41,160
think Wilford Brimley is in this movie

1017
00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:42,980
no looking

1018
00:42:53,870 --> 00:42:51,530
yeah I'm gonna say like 40 I'm gonna do

1019
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,880
the prices right I'm gonna say 46. [\h__\h]

1020
00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:55,200
you okay well I'm actually kind of

1021
00:42:58,670 --> 00:42:56,700
annoyed because yeah because right I

1022
00:43:01,490 --> 00:42:58,680
think it's like 48 47 something like

1023
00:43:03,050 --> 00:43:01,500
that the reason why I guess Lois got red

1024
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:03,060
because reading the box I'm like is that

1025
00:43:07,010 --> 00:43:04,859
the Quaker Oats guy and then I still

1026
00:43:09,050 --> 00:43:07,020
read like that he was in some movie he

1027
00:43:11,450 --> 00:43:09,060
was cast way old recently the youngest

1028
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:11,460
of all of the casts Builder and then he

1029
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,980
was like a rodeo person and a blacksmith

1030
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,079
that dude did a crazy [\h__\h] life yeah

1031
00:43:21,230 --> 00:43:19,200
yeah go looking up it's worth the time

1032
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:21,240
yeah well for Brimley is the man

1033
00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:23,160
that was like awesome I was like is that

1034
00:43:28,250 --> 00:43:25,140
the diabetes guy and I was like oh he's

1035
00:43:30,890 --> 00:43:28,260
the quicker old guy too

1036
00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:30,900
mind blown mind blown

1037
00:43:35,210 --> 00:43:33,480
um so I mean we don't have to go through

1038
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,220
the movie Beat by beat I know we don't

1039
00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:38,160
have a ton of time but okay may I

1040
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,020
mention the moment real quick before yes

1041
00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:42,000
because it might actually be

1042
00:43:46,670 --> 00:43:43,980
um my favorite scare

1043
00:43:48,109 --> 00:43:46,680
uh in any movie uh specifically because

1044
00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:48,119
I remember the moment that I first time

1045
00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:50,040
I saw it I'm sure I'm there's no way I'm

1046
00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:51,420
the only person that thinks this maybe

1047
00:43:57,050 --> 00:43:53,700
not even on this podcast but

1048
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:57,060
um the defibrillator

1049
00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:58,560
um going down

1050
00:44:02,930 --> 00:44:00,420
a couple I think it goes down like once

1051
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:02,940
maybe twice and then goes down again and

1052
00:44:07,870 --> 00:44:05,220
the man's chest opens up and bites off

1053
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:07,880
the hands dude yeah

1054
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:11,400
it sees a pound for pound one of my

1055
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:13,560
favorite practical effects ever I think

1056
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:16,500
it still looks amazing it's so perfect

1057
00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:18,900
at the point of the story that it's at

1058
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:23,339
because it it I mean talk about like the

1059
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,140
Through the Looking Glass kind of moment

1060
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:27,119
like from that point on like that's when

1061
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,400
it starts turning it like with the

1062
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:31,440
dude's head coming up and like it's

1063
00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:32,640
shooting up into the roof like

1064
00:44:38,569 --> 00:44:35,460
everything it's almost like it the

1065
00:44:41,089 --> 00:44:38,579
monster keeps hitting a reset button on

1066
00:44:44,109 --> 00:44:41,099
what we know about it right which just

1067
00:44:46,849 --> 00:44:44,119
makes it even scarier uh and it's yeah

1068
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:46,859
yeah all this ugh just incredible

1069
00:44:51,770 --> 00:44:50,280
incredible insane stuff it's so [\h__\h]

1070
00:44:53,569 --> 00:44:51,780
cool the other moment with that because

1071
00:44:55,250 --> 00:44:53,579
I agree Andrew like I love that part the

1072
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,260
other moment I love like with the facts

1073
00:44:58,609 --> 00:44:56,880
that is a little bit simpler but not

1074
00:45:02,589 --> 00:44:58,619
when you think about is when the dude

1075
00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:02,599
fingers go through the guy's face

1076
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:05,460
oh man I just like every time I watched

1077
00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:07,380
him it's like oh oh

1078
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,680
it's it's so [\h__\h] well done yeah like

1079
00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:13,440
and how long all of it sorry it's

1080
00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:15,060
amazing no I was gonna say a little bit

1081
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,680
of trivia I just found this out today

1082
00:45:21,530 --> 00:45:18,720
the scene where you know the

1083
00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:21,540
defibrillators go inside and the stomach

1084
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:24,599
eats the guy's arms they actually they

1085
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:28,079
hired in amputee who didn't have arms

1086
00:45:32,809 --> 00:45:30,900
too and they threw a mask on him so if

1087
00:45:34,910 --> 00:45:32,819
you if you pause during that part you

1088
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,920
can tell it's a mask but in the moment

1089
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:36,960
you you have no idea amazing they

1090
00:45:41,329 --> 00:45:39,660
actually hired a guy that's great I

1091
00:45:44,089 --> 00:45:41,339
always loved they did that with one of

1092
00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:44,099
those for uh the uh remake of Donna the

1093
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:46,140
Zack Snyder and James Gunn's Dawn of the

1094
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,460
Dead movie where there's somebody with

1095
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:49,680
no legs love that movie yeah I love that

1096
00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:52,500
movie yeah yeah

1097
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,560
okay well I mean we again we could talk

1098
00:46:00,109 --> 00:45:58,079
about each body and we're here it's kind

1099
00:46:01,849 --> 00:46:00,119
of a good example if we've jumped if

1100
00:46:03,230 --> 00:46:01,859
we've jumped to kind of these parts can

1101
00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:03,240
I please tell you my one issue with this

1102
00:46:08,329 --> 00:46:05,400
movie my one issue with stories where I

1103
00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:08,339
was like God damn it guys so you know

1104
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:09,900
like at this point in this movie you're

1105
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,220
like okay

1106
00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:13,200
this there's a [\h__\h] alien floating

1107
00:46:17,569 --> 00:46:15,180
around that's going to like kill us

1108
00:46:18,670 --> 00:46:17,579
right and it looks like us and it acts

1109
00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:18,680
like us

1110
00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:23,339
why would you let anyone ever not go in

1111
00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,020
parties of three

1112
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,540
like there are people floating around by

1113
00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:29,040
themselves there's people floating

1114
00:46:32,270 --> 00:46:31,140
around in parties of two I'm like my

1115
00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:32,280
first thing is like first of all stop

1116
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,920
drinking number two

1117
00:46:38,809 --> 00:46:37,440
number two parties of three always

1118
00:46:41,329 --> 00:46:38,819
parties of three if you have to go

1119
00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:41,339
anywhere no one's going [\h__\h] anywhere

1120
00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:43,380
and they're just like they're like Kurt

1121
00:46:47,329 --> 00:46:44,819
Russell you can go to your Shack it's

1122
00:46:48,589 --> 00:46:47,339
cool go to your Shack go get some go get

1123
00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:48,599
some ice cream

1124
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:50,220
take one person with you and I'm like

1125
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,660
well if there's an alien he attacks you

1126
00:46:55,849 --> 00:46:54,240
in the shadows you're [\h__\h] so why are

1127
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,859
we not even parties free all the time

1128
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,839
parties of three I was like you're all

1129
00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:59,520
stupid everyone in this Camp is stupid

1130
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:01,140
people

1131
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:05,520
again I I just and I understand it I I

1132
00:47:12,050 --> 00:47:08,460
the only defense I have is like

1133
00:47:13,730 --> 00:47:12,060
we weren't there like decisions are

1134
00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:13,740
poorly made

1135
00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:16,020
um every one of them at some point make

1136
00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:19,079
a poor decision and I I think that kind

1137
00:47:26,569 --> 00:47:22,619
of is a testament to the situation the

1138
00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:26,579
isolation the paranoia you just like

1139
00:47:30,410 --> 00:47:28,680
everything is so uncertain to a point

1140
00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:30,420
that it will drive you crazy and you're

1141
00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:32,460
not thinking logically and of course we

1142
00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:34,460
have the helicopter pilot who kind of

1143
00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:36,900
becomes the leader in all of this when

1144
00:47:42,430 --> 00:47:39,720
it should be Wilford Brimley in my

1145
00:47:44,809 --> 00:47:42,440
opinion who goes he's already an alien

1146
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:44,819
exactly and they end up putting them in

1147
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:47,700
a shack and and saying like they're on

1148
00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:50,400
your own buddy the set was [\h__\h] news

1149
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:54,540
the like news in shot I was like guys

1150
00:48:01,990 --> 00:47:57,359
there's news and then he's like hey I'm

1151
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,000
okay now you're so great I'm totally uh

1152
00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:05,040
I love that not the thing I think that's

1153
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,599
the best that's the best actor in the

1154
00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:08,400
movie

1155
00:48:12,050 --> 00:48:10,140
another moment probably my favorite

1156
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:12,060
moment in the movie is when um Wilford

1157
00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:13,440
brimley's character

1158
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:15,720
um is shooting at one of the other guys

1159
00:48:21,050 --> 00:48:18,060
and he runs out of bullets so he just

1160
00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:21,060
throws the gun yeah that's great I saw

1161
00:48:23,690 --> 00:48:22,619
that I thought there's an old snail skit

1162
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,700
where there was like Superman and

1163
00:48:30,290 --> 00:48:24,960
they're like shooting Superman he's like

1164
00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:32,030
it's those moments like there are some

1165
00:48:36,349 --> 00:48:33,960
moments of levity in this movie again

1166
00:48:38,569 --> 00:48:36,359
with the spider head part

1167
00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:38,579
um probably the most iconic moment in

1168
00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:40,740
this movie in my opinion when the little

1169
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:42,780
thing is like skittering across the

1170
00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:46,079
floor sure and we get the famous line if

1171
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:48,359
someone pointed to in the the chat there

1172
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:51,060
like you've got to be F and kidding me

1173
00:48:56,030 --> 00:48:54,300
like this is where we're at um yeah I

1174
00:48:57,410 --> 00:48:56,040
love it that Carpenter put those in

1175
00:48:59,150 --> 00:48:57,420
there and yeah

1176
00:49:01,490 --> 00:48:59,160
there were a few others I think in the

1177
00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:01,500
deleted scenes like you know the big

1178
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,000
question in this movie is how come there

1179
00:49:08,210 --> 00:49:06,240
were no female researchers and like take

1180
00:49:10,430 --> 00:49:08,220
of that what you will this is a movie in

1181
00:49:12,530 --> 00:49:10,440
the 80s like I didn't it might be I'm a

1182
00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:12,540
bad person yeah like maybe people were

1183
00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:14,520
thinking oh there's one woman there with

1184
00:49:19,490 --> 00:49:17,240
like 11 other guys

1185
00:49:21,650 --> 00:49:19,500
I could honestly see that being against

1186
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:21,660
military regulations at that point that

1187
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,839
might be you're probably right actually

1188
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:26,640
um but apparently there's a deleted

1189
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,440
scene where

1190
00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:30,240
um uh what's his name Kurt Russell's

1191
00:49:36,349 --> 00:49:33,720
character McCready uh he finds a blow up

1192
00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:36,359
doll in one of the guys rooms like a sex

1193
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,940
doll oh God I wish they kept that in

1194
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,319
there right yeah I mean that would have

1195
00:49:46,130 --> 00:49:43,440
explained so much right God I love the

1196
00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:46,140
thing I love it so much like I love it

1197
00:49:52,210 --> 00:49:48,300
but you know what it doesn't ha it

1198
00:49:55,069 --> 00:49:52,220
doesn't have a sex doll and me oh God

1199
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,079
I would love the movie so much more of

1200
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:57,359
it and a sex doll I need

1201
00:50:01,010 --> 00:49:59,280
I need the sex doll that's where we're

1202
00:50:02,270 --> 00:50:01,020
at right now Andrew sees it as a perfect

1203
00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:02,280
film

1204
00:50:06,550 --> 00:50:04,500
someone's gonna clip this audio and be

1205
00:50:10,730 --> 00:50:06,560
like all right

1206
00:50:13,450 --> 00:50:10,740
thanks oh so much yeah the Kathy comic

1207
00:50:17,089 --> 00:50:13,460
is always here going like chocolate with

1208
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:17,099
Ryan's it's sex dolls

1209
00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:20,160
oh my God

1210
00:50:25,010 --> 00:50:22,140
what am I doing

1211
00:50:28,970 --> 00:50:25,020
um let's let's Okay so we have all these

1212
00:50:29,930 --> 00:50:28,980
scenes where like no one knows who's the

1213
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:29,940
thing

1214
00:50:34,490 --> 00:50:32,280
um maybe a few people maybe none who

1215
00:50:37,309 --> 00:50:34,500
freaking knows everything's all flipped

1216
00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:37,319
upside down and that bottom right hand

1217
00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:40,619
corner image you see there is probably

1218
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:43,560
my favorite scene so good in this movie

1219
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:47,220
where McCready decides to tie the

1220
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,760
remaining people uh to you know these

1221
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:52,800
chairs and

1222
00:50:59,089 --> 00:50:56,220
um even the dead people he tied up which

1223
00:50:59,950 --> 00:50:59,099
I think is hilarious in the back there

1224
00:51:03,770 --> 00:50:59,960
um

1225
00:51:05,329 --> 00:51:03,780
so it makes sense to me yeah good point

1226
00:51:07,250 --> 00:51:05,339
well isn't it yeah and also the

1227
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:07,260
defrosted body they bring back is one

1228
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:09,240
that is also like part of it yeah that

1229
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:12,240
was it yes yeah they'll go in groups too

1230
00:51:17,150 --> 00:51:13,140
but they're not [\h__\h] around with

1231
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,160
people yeah absolutely because I think

1232
00:51:20,750 --> 00:51:19,440
it's it also speaks to like the maybe

1233
00:51:21,950 --> 00:51:20,760
why they don't always is traveling

1234
00:51:23,870 --> 00:51:21,960
groups because they just they don't

1235
00:51:25,069 --> 00:51:23,880
trust each other so much that he's tying

1236
00:51:26,930 --> 00:51:25,079
these people down and it's one of those

1237
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:26,940
things where it's like you understand

1238
00:51:31,069 --> 00:51:29,040
that impulse but it also gets those

1239
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:31,079
people killed when the [\h__\h] goes exactly

1240
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,740
so it's it takes like wonderful yeah

1241
00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:37,200
yeah sorry Andrew it takes every fiber

1242
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:41,940
of their being to like even like be

1243
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:44,880
loyal to one another in the tiniest of

1244
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:47,760
ways because they just don't know and

1245
00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:50,220
that's the tension that just kept my

1246
00:51:55,790 --> 00:51:53,339
anxiety going this entire movie and it

1247
00:51:57,950 --> 00:51:55,800
was so incredibly paced

1248
00:51:59,809 --> 00:51:57,960
um and then you get to this scene where

1249
00:52:02,990 --> 00:51:59,819
McCready is like all right

1250
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:03,000
the [\h__\h] like I'm done we're testing

1251
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:04,980
blood we're gonna figure it out if

1252
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,900
you're one of these things I'm burning

1253
00:52:10,730 --> 00:52:08,880
you to death and we're gonna you know

1254
00:52:12,349 --> 00:52:10,740
figure this [\h__\h] out

1255
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,359
um and this is probably my favorite part

1256
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:14,480
of the movie honestly it's no music

1257
00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:17,280
nothing behind it

1258
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:20,040
um and he starts testing their blood one

1259
00:52:25,069 --> 00:52:23,460
by one and literally every second and

1260
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:25,079
again this is my first time watching it

1261
00:52:29,390 --> 00:52:27,240
I had no idea what was about to happen

1262
00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:29,400
yeah I know I will never have that

1263
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:32,220
luxury again but even watching it a

1264
00:52:37,609 --> 00:52:35,280
second time my anxiety is still there oh

1265
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:37,619
my God yeah dude of him testing each

1266
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,900
person's blood you can hear it you can

1267
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:41,520
hear like he's using this little

1268
00:52:49,069 --> 00:52:43,920
electric shock thing to see if it's like

1269
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:49,079
yeah yeah and it's just the tension I've

1270
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:50,940
never seen a scene like this in a movie

1271
00:52:55,790 --> 00:52:53,579
maybe even like a Tarantino movie but

1272
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:55,800
other than that it is one of the best

1273
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:58,200
pop scares uh because it's such an

1274
00:53:01,490 --> 00:52:59,760
underrated pop scare that you're not

1275
00:53:03,049 --> 00:53:01,500
like because they didn't know because

1276
00:53:04,010 --> 00:53:03,059
again even watching it like you're

1277
00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:04,020
watching the first time you don't know

1278
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:05,640
what's gonna happen when he Nails the

1279
00:53:10,010 --> 00:53:07,140
button to have it like

1280
00:53:11,809 --> 00:53:10,020
explode in that way it was like

1281
00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:11,819
for the thing I love about a lot of John

1282
00:53:15,049 --> 00:53:13,079
Carpenter films like even if you look at

1283
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:15,059
like the original Halloween it's like

1284
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:17,040
he doesn't build it on pop scares he

1285
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:18,960
builds tension which I love and I think

1286
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:20,760
it's really really effective and this

1287
00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:23,460
movie tension and like claustrophobia

1288
00:53:28,490 --> 00:53:25,380
and Titan being outside quarters but

1289
00:53:30,410 --> 00:53:28,500
like if he's gonna do a pop scare it is

1290
00:53:32,089 --> 00:53:30,420
simply really effective I think about

1291
00:53:34,430 --> 00:53:32,099
the hand hitting the glass in the first

1292
00:53:35,690 --> 00:53:34,440
Halloween movie inside the car on the

1293
00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:35,700
escape from this right like when he

1294
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:37,859
touches that blood and it just it blows

1295
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:39,240
up and you're not because you have no

1296
00:53:43,730 --> 00:53:40,559
idea what that reaction is going to be

1297
00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:43,740
and I think it is in terms of a building

1298
00:53:47,329 --> 00:53:45,180
tension

1299
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:47,339
for that moment it's really well

1300
00:53:50,990 --> 00:53:48,839
executed

1301
00:53:52,849 --> 00:53:51,000
um which I'm just saying everyone knows

1302
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,859
John Carpenter is a [\h__\h] master of

1303
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,240
horror but well

1304
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:56,160
and before we go any further I do want

1305
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:58,079
to bring up what Grant levock um is

1306
00:54:02,089 --> 00:53:59,520
probably one of the biggest Kurt Russell

1307
00:54:03,290 --> 00:54:02,099
fans ever my buddy in Australia who's in

1308
00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:03,300
the chat here

1309
00:54:07,549 --> 00:54:06,660
um he clearly loves this movie as I do

1310
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:07,559
too

1311
00:54:14,030 --> 00:54:11,040
um now I'm a huge fan now uh he brought

1312
00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:14,040
up the AIDS epidemic which actually the

1313
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,440
in terms of like social commentary was a

1314
00:54:20,329 --> 00:54:18,480
big thing when this movie came out and I

1315
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:20,339
think it does play into it a lot this

1316
00:54:24,530 --> 00:54:22,500
idea of something

1317
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:24,540
um you know spreading and you just don't

1318
00:54:29,770 --> 00:54:26,760
know who has it and everyone was

1319
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:29,780
paranoid we didn't know

1320
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,119
yeah was it transmitted um could you get

1321
00:54:39,770 --> 00:54:35,520
it from coughing on some like you just

1322
00:54:41,630 --> 00:54:39,780
don't know so I think that that's and I

1323
00:54:44,329 --> 00:54:41,640
think that played against the movie

1324
00:54:46,849 --> 00:54:44,339
actually and why it did so poorly when

1325
00:54:48,890 --> 00:54:46,859
it came out we'll get to that later on

1326
00:54:50,930 --> 00:54:48,900
um but I do think the AIDS epidemic

1327
00:54:53,329 --> 00:54:50,940
played a big part in this whether it did

1328
00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:53,339
subliminally or like on the actual

1329
00:54:57,710 --> 00:54:55,500
surface of the Bert Lancaster writing

1330
00:55:00,770 --> 00:54:57,720
this script I don't know but you can't

1331
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,780
deny the the parallels between those two

1332
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,160
I think you're just talking about this

1333
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:04,559
and uh I was I'm a professional

1334
00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:06,480
Professor too for contacts but like we

1335
00:55:10,609 --> 00:55:08,040
were talking about this in in a meeting

1336
00:55:12,049 --> 00:55:10,619
like whenever we teach art right right

1337
00:55:13,790 --> 00:55:12,059
we teach theater teach art you teach

1338
00:55:15,770 --> 00:55:13,800
like anything within really anything

1339
00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:15,780
right when you're going in to teach like

1340
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:18,059
you can't separate it's really hard I

1341
00:55:22,250 --> 00:55:20,760
think to separate traumas

1342
00:55:23,930 --> 00:55:22,260
traumas of the world that are going on

1343
00:55:26,030 --> 00:55:23,940
right so like if we're looking at this

1344
00:55:29,450 --> 00:55:26,040
film like whether that's purposeful or

1345
00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:29,460
not like that is a a real trauma that is

1346
00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:31,380
happening at that time so like you can't

1347
00:55:34,670 --> 00:55:32,940
take that stuff out of context like

1348
00:55:36,650 --> 00:55:34,680
people always will contextualize what's

1349
00:55:39,170 --> 00:55:36,660
happening and so when you talk about

1350
00:55:40,970 --> 00:55:39,180
this like I think about a friend of our

1351
00:55:42,890 --> 00:55:40,980
you know Ryan you know Wayne like

1352
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,900
talking about living in New York City in

1353
00:55:46,849 --> 00:55:44,640
the 80s and walking down the street and

1354
00:55:48,770 --> 00:55:46,859
seeing people dead right dead abates

1355
00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:48,780
like they die on the street in the

1356
00:55:52,790 --> 00:55:50,460
village or in like the Lower East Side

1357
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:52,800
and so I think that's a really good

1358
00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:54,240
point like you can't

1359
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:56,280
you can't separate those things just

1360
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,680
like I think for like for us right as we

1361
00:56:01,010 --> 00:56:00,000
watch things like I was watching The

1362
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,020
Last of Us

1363
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,359
right or my wife and I were

1364
00:56:07,849 --> 00:56:06,240
um and they talk about like the funk did

1365
00:56:10,990 --> 00:56:07,859
you not like it we can oh no I loved it

1366
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:11,000
oh God no that was a problem

1367
00:56:15,170 --> 00:56:13,079
when that show's done we should talk

1368
00:56:16,849 --> 00:56:15,180
about that but um good stuff but the

1369
00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:16,859
intro to the outspending the intro of

1370
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:18,180
that show literally talks about like

1371
00:56:21,770 --> 00:56:19,980
they're talking about pandemics right

1372
00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:21,780
and I think if you had not lived through

1373
00:56:26,030 --> 00:56:23,940
a pandemic you'd be like oh man yeah

1374
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:26,040
that's just scary

1375
00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:27,420
um because the game was made before the

1376
00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:29,700
pandemic and so but now that we've lived

1377
00:56:35,329 --> 00:56:31,380
through a literal pandemic you're like

1378
00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:35,339
oh [\h__\h] yeah yeah exactly and so I think

1379
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,500
that like you're right like the AIDS

1380
00:56:41,630 --> 00:56:39,359
aspect of this whether it's purposeful

1381
00:56:43,010 --> 00:56:41,640
or not like that is a thing that people

1382
00:56:45,410 --> 00:56:43,020
are dealing with

1383
00:56:46,730 --> 00:56:45,420
in a very real way especially like when

1384
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,740
you think about like who's writing and

1385
00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:48,720
acting people coming from New York and

1386
00:56:52,490 --> 00:56:50,220
La where a lot of this [\h__\h] is cast

1387
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,500
right in dealing with this stuff in an

1388
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:54,000
everyday type way

1389
00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:55,980
you can't separate those things right

1390
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,480
you really can't and even I think about

1391
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,760
watching this film in a modern sense

1392
00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:01,440
living you know going through we've all

1393
00:57:04,849 --> 00:57:02,700
gone through

1394
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:04,859
um like that still plays in right like

1395
00:57:10,430 --> 00:57:07,200
what is like this or like who is sick

1396
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,440
who isn't sick like is it a cold yeah

1397
00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:12,720
like all these unknowns like we're

1398
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:15,180
that's so fresh to us now

1399
00:57:19,130 --> 00:57:17,640
um as a culture that I think that you

1400
00:57:20,569 --> 00:57:19,140
can't you can't pull those things apart

1401
00:57:21,890 --> 00:57:20,579
whether it's intentional or not like

1402
00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:21,900
it's always yeah it's always there it's

1403
00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:23,339
baked in it's baked in trauma I guess

1404
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,180
yeah

1405
00:57:27,710 --> 00:57:26,400
baked in trauma that's so that's the

1406
00:57:30,349 --> 00:57:27,720
most academic thing I'll ever say in

1407
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:30,359
your podcast thank you Professor Nick I

1408
00:57:32,930 --> 00:57:31,200
love it

1409
00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:32,940
um well I guess let's kind of let's

1410
00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:34,920
let's get to kind of the

1411
00:57:39,710 --> 00:57:38,280
um the end of the video game yeah yeah

1412
00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:39,720
we'll get there

1413
00:57:45,650 --> 00:57:43,020
um so like uh you know we have the

1414
00:57:47,329 --> 00:57:45,660
famous you know the the the thing we're

1415
00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:47,339
we're seeing more and more of the thing

1416
00:57:53,329 --> 00:57:50,220
as more and more people die and then we

1417
00:57:54,829 --> 00:57:53,339
finally get to I guess the final moments

1418
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:54,839
where

1419
00:58:00,349 --> 00:57:57,599
um you know McCready is like we gotta

1420
00:58:03,290 --> 00:58:00,359
blow up this whole place like this we

1421
00:58:04,790 --> 00:58:03,300
have we have no choice this is the only

1422
00:58:06,170 --> 00:58:04,800
thing we can do to stop it from

1423
00:58:08,990 --> 00:58:06,180
spreading

1424
00:58:12,609 --> 00:58:09,000
um we're blowing up the base so he we're

1425
00:58:17,569 --> 00:58:15,109
into the computer Maybe

1426
00:58:20,270 --> 00:58:17,579
yes exactly

1427
00:58:22,010 --> 00:58:20,280
um so him uh Childs who we haven't

1428
00:58:23,630 --> 00:58:22,020
really talked about a lot

1429
00:58:25,370 --> 00:58:23,640
um because he is very unassuming

1430
00:58:26,930 --> 00:58:25,380
throughout the film we kind of see him

1431
00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:26,940
as having a really good relationship

1432
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,980
with McCready

1433
00:58:33,410 --> 00:58:31,200
um and you know they have a moment of

1434
00:58:35,890 --> 00:58:33,420
tension I think at one point but they're

1435
00:58:38,030 --> 00:58:35,900
like a couple moments of tension yeah

1436
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,040
like you know it's all a dick measuring

1437
00:58:44,990 --> 00:58:41,119
contest at a certain yeah it is

1438
00:58:48,170 --> 00:58:45,000
exactly uh and him and a few of the

1439
00:58:51,410 --> 00:58:48,180
others go down into the you know the

1440
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:51,420
basement of the the the place where

1441
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:53,640
um who was it that was kind of planning

1442
00:58:57,789 --> 00:58:56,640
this big uh was literally building a new

1443
00:59:00,049 --> 00:58:57,799
spaceship

1444
00:59:01,250 --> 00:59:00,059
brimley's character that's why I thought

1445
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:01,260
he was a [\h__\h] alien from the

1446
00:59:05,089 --> 00:59:02,400
beginning

1447
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:05,099
he's trying to build a spaceship I don't

1448
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,480
know if he what like is he possible

1449
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:08,640
parts of the old helicopter parts and

1450
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,280
all that [\h__\h] yeah which is the most

1451
00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:12,960
unrealistic part of the movie I think

1452
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:15,780
but also hilarious

1453
00:59:21,410 --> 00:59:18,960
um but so they figure they see this and

1454
00:59:24,109 --> 00:59:21,420
then we get the final moments of the

1455
00:59:26,270 --> 00:59:24,119
most unrealistic part A Dog's praise

1456
00:59:28,450 --> 00:59:26,280
liquid on another dog it becomes that

1457
00:59:32,530 --> 00:59:28,460
dog

1458
00:59:35,569 --> 00:59:32,540
that's scientifically sound dangerous

1459
00:59:38,270 --> 00:59:35,579
guys Andrew that [\h__\h] is yeah is

1460
00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:38,280
actually in a pentagon liquid dog no

1461
00:59:43,730 --> 00:59:40,020
you're rolled there buddy yeah that's

1462
00:59:44,569 --> 00:59:43,740
that's that's that was factual

1463
00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:44,579
um

1464
00:59:51,710 --> 00:59:48,540
so okay so our final characters start

1465
00:59:54,650 --> 00:59:51,720
getting picked off and um we finally

1466
00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:54,660
kind of see the thing in its big form I

1467
00:59:58,970 --> 00:59:56,819
don't have an image here but guys go

1468
01:00:02,210 --> 00:59:58,980
watch the movie if you haven't and it's

1469
01:00:04,130 --> 01:00:02,220
pretty pretty grotesque and um we're

1470
01:00:06,650 --> 01:00:04,140
kind of left with a final showdown

1471
01:00:09,230 --> 01:00:06,660
between McCready our helicopter pilot

1472
01:00:12,109 --> 01:00:09,240
the hero of the film and the thing

1473
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,119
that's very moist it's a very moist

1474
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:14,880
monster moist monsters it's been down

1475
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,720
there it's sweaty it's um it's got a lot

1476
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:19,920
going on

1477
01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:21,839
and

1478
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:29,940
we get these final moments right am I

1479
01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:32,400
missing anything no we'll get to the

1480
01:00:36,829 --> 01:00:34,140
very last scene because that's the yeah

1481
01:00:39,289 --> 01:00:36,839
yeah oh God I have so many thoughts on

1482
01:00:40,609 --> 01:00:39,299
the actual ending I loved it I love the

1483
01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:40,619
tunnel scene in this movie I think again

1484
01:00:44,329 --> 01:00:42,359
we talked about like another really

1485
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:44,339
tense scene of this film

1486
01:00:48,049 --> 01:00:46,079
um I think the dogs if we like go

1487
01:00:50,750 --> 01:00:48,059
through like really well constructed 10

1488
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:50,760
scenes the first the dog gate scene and

1489
01:00:56,450 --> 01:00:54,000
dog walking in that happening the the

1490
01:00:58,609 --> 01:00:56,460
autopsy scene the first one the second

1491
01:01:01,910 --> 01:00:58,619
on top like the hand ripped off scene by

1492
01:01:04,970 --> 01:01:01,920
love scene the blood scene and then the

1493
01:01:07,010 --> 01:01:04,980
tunnels the tunnels I feel like the way

1494
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:07,020
that's shot and the way it's paced it's

1495
01:01:11,630 --> 01:01:09,359
so both frenetic and built like you know

1496
01:01:13,789 --> 01:01:11,640
you feel that climax coming and you're

1497
01:01:15,710 --> 01:01:13,799
just waiting to see like how is this

1498
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:15,720
gonna unfold because now

1499
01:01:18,589 --> 01:01:17,280
I always get this feeling they're out of

1500
01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:18,599
their element right they've gone like

1501
01:01:22,190 --> 01:01:21,000
the building buildings are their element

1502
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:22,200
like they understand that they

1503
01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:24,240
understand the space they've lived in it

1504
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:25,859
and when they leave that and go

1505
01:01:30,289 --> 01:01:28,319
underground now they're leaving their

1506
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:30,299
their environment their Turf and I think

1507
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:32,700
you feel that really distinctly as they

1508
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:33,780
try to like

1509
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:35,760
set up this explosion I think that's

1510
01:01:39,230 --> 01:01:37,740
really smart too they take them out of

1511
01:01:40,609 --> 01:01:39,240
their environment into a brand new

1512
01:01:43,490 --> 01:01:40,619
environment even though it's the same

1513
01:01:45,650 --> 01:01:43,500
place right which I liked a lot

1514
01:01:48,170 --> 01:01:45,660
interesting interesting I want to thank

1515
01:01:50,510 --> 01:01:48,180
arik uh very quickly here Ortiz film

1516
01:01:52,670 --> 01:01:50,520
should the Among Us movie just be the

1517
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:52,680
thing remaking space since the last of

1518
01:01:57,950 --> 01:01:55,680
us is very Walking Dead oh can I do no

1519
01:01:59,450 --> 01:01:57,960
sound uh Eric he is a filmmaker I've

1520
01:02:00,589 --> 01:01:59,460
worked with that dude is awesome so if

1521
01:02:03,530 --> 01:02:00,599
you get a chance to check out his work

1522
01:02:06,170 --> 01:02:03,540
you should he's a good dude awesome well

1523
01:02:07,309 --> 01:02:06,180
thank you for the Superman I'll

1524
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:07,319
definitely have to check out his work

1525
01:02:10,609 --> 01:02:08,880
thanks for being here man thanks for

1526
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:10,619
checking us out hope you'll become a

1527
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,920
subscriber subscribe below I had to do

1528
01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:15,359
it sorry guys

1529
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:17,099
um you know what this is okay

1530
01:02:25,010 --> 01:02:22,010
take it man

1531
01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:25,020
um McCready blows this [\h__\h] all down

1532
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:26,940
yeah it blows it up and then he's left

1533
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:28,559
with Childs and I think we already got

1534
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,760
the uh

1535
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,680
question in the chat which is whether or

1536
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,079
not child's is

1537
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:36,480
um an alien or if he's normal which I

1538
01:02:39,950 --> 01:02:38,640
think

1539
01:02:43,789 --> 01:02:39,960
um I did somebody said it could be

1540
01:02:46,510 --> 01:02:43,799
answered in it either way I

1541
01:02:50,450 --> 01:02:46,520
I personally think

1542
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:50,460
uh no and I will explain why two things

1543
01:02:55,370 --> 01:02:53,280
we're going we're going very base with

1544
01:02:59,089 --> 01:02:55,380
it by the time it's just the two of them

1545
01:03:00,770 --> 01:02:59,099
the alien has no reason to remain Childs

1546
01:03:03,230 --> 01:03:00,780
in that moment or to have it be the kind

1547
01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:03,240
of tense quiet moment uh that it ends up

1548
01:03:07,849 --> 01:03:05,640
being the other reason I would say no is

1549
01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:07,859
because I think it goes against the

1550
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:09,839
themes that are being established in the

1551
01:03:14,329 --> 01:03:12,000
movie particularly when it comes to

1552
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:14,339
trust and how humans especially can

1553
01:03:18,109 --> 01:03:16,319
often get in our own way when it comes

1554
01:03:20,329 --> 01:03:18,119
to trusting people down to our own

1555
01:03:22,549 --> 01:03:20,339
detriment and I think that happens

1556
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:22,559
several times throughout the movie

1557
01:03:25,309 --> 01:03:23,940
um where you see if they're you know

1558
01:03:27,289 --> 01:03:25,319
people would have just calmed down and

1559
01:03:28,670 --> 01:03:27,299
talked and not turned on each other so

1560
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:28,680
quickly or maybe tried to trust each

1561
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:30,000
other a little bit more things wouldn't

1562
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,359
be as bad I think it's it would be I

1563
01:03:37,370 --> 01:03:35,280
think the true poetry of the movie would

1564
01:03:40,130 --> 01:03:37,380
be that these two humans are left

1565
01:03:42,589 --> 01:03:40,140
together both of them are fine

1566
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:42,599
um but the trust is just not there so

1567
01:03:46,130 --> 01:03:45,119
they freeze to death and I mean they're

1568
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:46,140
going to freeze to death anyway but

1569
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:47,359
there's

1570
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:49,200
Solace that they're going to die

1571
01:03:53,569 --> 01:03:50,940
together as the last two humans they

1572
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:53,579
just kind of die bitter and Afraid and

1573
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:55,760
alone this is the most

1574
01:04:01,970 --> 01:03:58,799
nihilistic ending to a movie I've seen

1575
01:04:03,549 --> 01:04:01,980
and it was up there perfect it has the

1576
01:04:08,049 --> 01:04:03,559
last lines in the movie

1577
01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:08,059
Let's just sit here for a minute yeah

1578
01:04:13,069 --> 01:04:11,339
[\h__\h] great and you're just like here

1579
01:04:16,010 --> 01:04:13,079
for a little while yes that's what

1580
01:04:18,289 --> 01:04:16,020
happens oh yeah I when I saw that I'm

1581
01:04:20,510 --> 01:04:18,299
like oh my God I wish I could write an

1582
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:20,520
ending like that and then the thing and

1583
01:04:23,030 --> 01:04:21,660
then that credit and then like that's

1584
01:04:25,789 --> 01:04:23,040
the other thing in terms of good editing

1585
01:04:29,470 --> 01:04:25,799
and filmmaking and then boom the thing I

1586
01:04:32,210 --> 01:04:29,480
just like it ends on such a nice

1587
01:04:33,049 --> 01:04:32,220
period in a way that I think is just

1588
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:33,059
like

1589
01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:40,079
well yeah

1590
01:04:44,809 --> 01:04:41,760
period is

1591
01:04:46,849 --> 01:04:44,819
um I would agree Nick but clearly the

1592
01:04:50,450 --> 01:04:46,859
franchise of the thing didn't think so

1593
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:50,460
because we actually got a um oh we got a

1594
01:04:58,130 --> 01:04:53,520
sequel and we got a prequel

1595
01:04:59,930 --> 01:04:58,140
um the video is the video game there was

1596
01:05:02,809 --> 01:04:59,940
a video game Nick let's talk about this

1597
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:02,819
for just a moment that came out um where

1598
01:05:07,609 --> 01:05:06,000
uh you know the U.S military comes to

1599
01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:07,619
figure out what the hell happened here

1600
01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:11,700
and um and that then it kind of unfolds

1601
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:13,980
from there clearly something lived on

1602
01:05:18,250 --> 01:05:16,799
something of the thing survived and then

1603
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:18,260
we see the military

1604
01:05:23,089 --> 01:05:21,180
fighting the thing and that's the game

1605
01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:23,099
it's a first person shooter game it's

1606
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,900
actually pretty good enough it's third

1607
01:05:28,010 --> 01:05:26,640
third person oh it's third person it

1608
01:05:30,410 --> 01:05:28,020
might have been a first person one that

1609
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:30,420
came out in conjunction with the the

1610
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:33,119
prequel uh movie don't quote me on that

1611
01:05:37,250 --> 01:05:35,520
but um this one was third person I had

1612
01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:37,260
it on my PS2 I actually played through

1613
01:05:44,510 --> 01:05:42,470
difficult super good it was a lot of fun

1614
01:05:45,650 --> 01:05:44,520
I'm not sure how it holds up now but one

1615
01:05:47,630 --> 01:05:45,660
of my favorite things about it

1616
01:05:50,329 --> 01:05:47,640
especially at the time

1617
01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:50,339
um was there was a mechanic where you

1618
01:05:53,870 --> 01:05:51,660
would basically be collecting team

1619
01:05:56,329 --> 01:05:53,880
members kind of as the thing was gone on

1620
01:05:58,609 --> 01:05:56,339
because you would be going through and

1621
01:06:02,289 --> 01:05:58,619
it's the game is really good Eric

1622
01:06:05,329 --> 01:06:02,299
um uh but they

1623
01:06:07,490 --> 01:06:05,339
you uh would be like collecting team

1624
01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:07,500
members and then having to like they

1625
01:06:10,849 --> 01:06:09,180
could end up getting like too scared and

1626
01:06:12,349 --> 01:06:10,859
you had to have to try to calm them down

1627
01:06:14,569 --> 01:06:12,359
and you would calm them down by like

1628
01:06:16,430 --> 01:06:14,579
giving them a gun or like trying to give

1629
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,440
them a pep talk or like trying to give

1630
01:06:19,970 --> 01:06:18,480
like you give them like a first aid pack

1631
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:19,980
that they could hold on to so you'd be

1632
01:06:23,630 --> 01:06:22,079
trying to like earn trust

1633
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:23,640
um from the people on your team and then

1634
01:06:27,650 --> 01:06:25,440
you could also test people's blood if

1635
01:06:28,970 --> 01:06:27,660
you weren't sure about them and

1636
01:06:31,250 --> 01:06:28,980
um there was a big you had a big

1637
01:06:32,569 --> 01:06:31,260
emphasis on using like flamethrowers to

1638
01:06:34,370 --> 01:06:32,579
fight a lot of these things which is

1639
01:06:37,250 --> 01:06:34,380
super fun mechanic

1640
01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:37,260
um and now I never got to witness this

1641
01:06:40,370 --> 01:06:39,059
myself which is kind of because I

1642
01:06:42,529 --> 01:06:40,380
remember both times I played through

1643
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:42,539
there's a moment in the very end that I

1644
01:06:45,529 --> 01:06:44,640
just could not get past for whatever

1645
01:06:47,150 --> 01:06:45,539
reason

1646
01:06:49,490 --> 01:06:47,160
um and did not have enough space in my

1647
01:06:50,650 --> 01:06:49,500
memory card to attempt it enough to

1648
01:06:53,569 --> 01:06:50,660
actually

1649
01:06:57,710 --> 01:06:53,579
ps2m memory cards doesn't matter

1650
01:06:59,569 --> 01:06:57,720
um they uh I couldn't get past it but at

1651
01:07:01,849 --> 01:06:59,579
the end of the video game

1652
01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:01,859
um when you succeed and get helicoptered

1653
01:07:06,049 --> 01:07:03,780
out of there you you are picked up by

1654
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,059
someone who helps you escape and then

1655
01:07:09,710 --> 01:07:07,920
introduces themselves as being bear

1656
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,720
McCready so

1657
01:07:14,329 --> 01:07:11,359
in the world

1658
01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:14,339
kind of at least in the video game he

1659
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,000
did survive well we should mention to

1660
01:07:25,690 --> 01:07:21,119
John Carpenter he has said that this

1661
01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:25,700
video game is an official really wow

1662
01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:28,940
I'm there for it

1663
01:07:34,190 --> 01:07:31,380
he fully supported the game and he said

1664
01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:34,200
yup yeah I'm all for this story playing

1665
01:07:38,329 --> 01:07:36,000
out

1666
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:38,339
yeah before we dive into the pre I will

1667
01:07:41,930 --> 01:07:39,599
say I think I have to get going

1668
01:07:44,510 --> 01:07:41,940
unfortunately oh absolutely man no no

1669
01:07:47,630 --> 01:07:44,520
worries at all for a little bit longer

1670
01:07:50,329 --> 01:07:47,640
okay thanks Nick hey uh Andrew before

1671
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:50,339
you go buddy I gotta put this up uh

1672
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:51,839
first of all a very happy birthday to

1673
01:07:56,589 --> 01:07:54,559
you guys happy birthday yesterday

1674
01:08:00,049 --> 01:07:56,599
thank you um

1675
01:08:02,210 --> 01:08:00,059
celebrate yes tell us about your short

1676
01:08:03,770 --> 01:08:02,220
film before you get going here it's our

1677
01:08:07,549 --> 01:08:03,780
short religious horror film called pay

1678
01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:07,559
the tithe um we it's about uh uh two

1679
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:09,599
couples who go to celebrate an

1680
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:10,799
engagement

1681
01:08:15,049 --> 01:08:13,200
uh out in a house in the middle of the

1682
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:15,059
woods and then a wounded priest arrives

1683
01:08:18,430 --> 01:08:16,799
and starts turning everybody against

1684
01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:18,440
each other and as he does his wound

1685
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,940
begins to heal very proud of him for I

1686
01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:22,319
wrote and directed it uh back in

1687
01:08:28,910 --> 01:08:26,040
November of 2021 and we premiered at the

1688
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:28,920
Atlanta horror film festival uh back in

1689
01:08:36,890 --> 01:08:33,660
October we'll also be at um pensacon in

1690
01:08:38,749 --> 01:08:36,900
Pensacola Florida in uh February in the

1691
01:08:39,890 --> 01:08:38,759
end of February uh so we're out there

1692
01:08:42,590 --> 01:08:39,900
still waiting to hear on some other

1693
01:08:44,809 --> 01:08:42,600
dates uh or other festivals and things

1694
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,819
of that nature and then um we'll

1695
01:08:48,289 --> 01:08:46,319
eventually get it online so everybody

1696
01:08:50,450 --> 01:08:48,299
can see it at their Leisure but if yeah

1697
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:50,460
if you're in if you're in Florida near

1698
01:08:55,610 --> 01:08:53,580
the Pensacola area will be at pensacon I

1699
01:08:57,470 --> 01:08:55,620
I think it's like the 24th and 25th

1700
01:08:59,150 --> 01:08:57,480
Andrew before you leave I'm very lucky

1701
01:09:00,410 --> 01:08:59,160
to both read this script and get seen

1702
01:09:02,150 --> 01:09:00,420
early cut of it because Andrew is a

1703
01:09:03,890 --> 01:09:02,160
lovely human being it is it is

1704
01:09:05,930 --> 01:09:03,900
incredible and it is beautifully done

1705
01:09:08,769 --> 01:09:05,940
and executed and so kudos to you Andrew

1706
01:09:12,169 --> 01:09:08,779
and if you can see it it is check it out

1707
01:09:14,749 --> 01:09:12,179
every minute you watch thank you I

1708
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,759
appreciate the pleasure too so um check

1709
01:09:18,890 --> 01:09:16,319
it out guys when it becomes available

1710
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:18,900
you can follow Andrew on uh Twitter

1711
01:09:24,530 --> 01:09:22,560
right at Twitter at Sanford minus Sun uh

1712
01:09:26,990 --> 01:09:24,540
I have an Instagram but it's private so

1713
01:09:29,329 --> 01:09:27,000
Andrew's the only reason unless you know

1714
01:09:31,610 --> 01:09:29,339
me don't uh don't worry about it that's

1715
01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:31,620
fair Buddy any final words on the thing

1716
01:09:35,329 --> 01:09:33,839
before all right I really find the video

1717
01:09:36,769 --> 01:09:35,339
game if you can track it down I'm sure

1718
01:09:38,809 --> 01:09:36,779
you could probably find an emulator of

1719
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:38,819
it at this point um watch the movie if

1720
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:41,040
you can get it see uh it's uh they

1721
01:09:44,209 --> 01:09:42,480
actually I think there was a whole thing

1722
01:09:46,249 --> 01:09:44,219
that Mick Garris was talking about in

1723
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:46,259
2022 because I think fathom events did

1724
01:09:49,789 --> 01:09:48,239
something for the 40th anniversary but

1725
01:09:51,530 --> 01:09:49,799
the uh the screening did not look good

1726
01:09:52,729 --> 01:09:51,540
so if you're gonna go see a screening of

1727
01:09:54,050 --> 01:09:52,739
it someplace make sure you're watching a

1728
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,060
good one apparently

1729
01:09:59,209 --> 01:09:56,400
um and uh don't do fathom events or do

1730
01:10:01,970 --> 01:09:59,219
sorry if you work for fathom events and

1731
01:10:04,370 --> 01:10:01,980
um yeah just you know I love the thing

1732
01:10:07,070 --> 01:10:04,380
and I I've never seen the prequel uh you

1733
01:10:08,930 --> 01:10:07,080
guys can fill me in later but um maybe I

1734
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:08,940
just know one of the dudes from Dumb and

1735
01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:12,360
Dumber ER isn't it yeah one of those

1736
01:10:16,669 --> 01:10:14,340
dudes is from where I grew up so I don't

1737
01:10:18,770 --> 01:10:16,679
know which one though and so the one I'm

1738
01:10:20,209 --> 01:10:18,780
thinking of was also in and up uh quite

1739
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:20,219
a few episodes of Community he's funny

1740
01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:22,980
he's perfect is he the one that played

1741
01:10:27,709 --> 01:10:24,360
Jim Carrey's character

1742
01:10:28,669 --> 01:10:27,719
yes he's I I know I he's in Davenport

1743
01:10:31,070 --> 01:10:28,679
Iowa

1744
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:31,080
I I know who you're talking about we'll

1745
01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:34,560
get to the prequel as well of that movie

1746
01:10:38,209 --> 01:10:35,940
where you can't where no one can talk

1747
01:10:41,390 --> 01:10:38,219
that's true that's fair quite I'll let

1748
01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:41,400
you go here buddy you're amazing see you

1749
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,600
guys later thank you for joining us

1750
01:10:45,470 --> 01:10:44,159
buddy of course thanks for having me

1751
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:45,480
have a good weekend

1752
01:10:50,990 --> 01:10:48,000
you too happy birthday is it even worse

1753
01:10:53,390 --> 01:10:51,000
and you're gone I mean I'm worth nothing

1754
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,400
I'm literally just cut it now all I

1755
01:11:00,649 --> 01:10:55,440
bought was I think let us know in the

1756
01:11:04,490 --> 01:11:02,570
um well Nick let's talk about

1757
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:04,500
um I did not real conversation begins

1758
01:11:09,950 --> 01:11:06,239
Let me just yeah let's talk about an

1759
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:09,960
intro um I did not see the prequel uh

1760
01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:12,960
apparently it's it follows the story of

1761
01:11:18,830 --> 01:11:15,420
the Norwegians and we we get to see

1762
01:11:21,709 --> 01:11:18,840
their their story play out and it's one

1763
01:11:24,410 --> 01:11:21,719
of these uh Rogue one-esque sort of

1764
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:24,420
movies where we see it play out and then

1765
01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:27,120
the final moments of the the prequel

1766
01:11:33,169 --> 01:11:30,060
lead right into the first moments of the

1767
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,179
1982 thing so that's it's cool it's a

1768
01:11:39,470 --> 01:11:36,239
cool idea it's a cool concept you know

1769
01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:39,480
um but it kind of demystifies uh the

1770
01:11:45,169 --> 01:11:42,300
whole nature of um of it all in my

1771
01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:45,179
opinion and here's the other thing the

1772
01:11:50,750 --> 01:11:48,600
prequel was all CGI they did practical

1773
01:11:52,370 --> 01:11:50,760
effects for everything and the Practical

1774
01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:52,380
effects looked amazing I watched it

1775
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:53,940
behind the scenes of it I haven't seen

1776
01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:55,320
the actual prequel but I watched it

1777
01:12:00,410 --> 01:11:57,199
behind the scenes

1778
01:12:02,209 --> 01:12:00,420
I know seriously uh they were incredible

1779
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,219
and they wanted to do it to pay homage

1780
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:05,280
to the original uh and then of course

1781
01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:07,679
the hands of the executives and the

1782
01:12:12,169 --> 01:12:09,900
producers at Universal got it got their

1783
01:12:14,270 --> 01:12:12,179
tentacles around it and said we don't

1784
01:12:15,890 --> 01:12:14,280
like it it looks too 80s in retro and

1785
01:12:19,130 --> 01:12:15,900
this is before like the 80s was cool

1786
01:12:21,649 --> 01:12:19,140
again and they changed everything to CGI

1787
01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:21,659
and it was horrendous you know something

1788
01:12:24,530 --> 01:12:22,980
that like I was having this conversation

1789
01:12:26,209 --> 01:12:24,540
with my wife because she just worked oh

1790
01:12:28,370 --> 01:12:26,219
I can't never mind she worked something

1791
01:12:31,070 --> 01:12:28,380
that was she my wife does events like

1792
01:12:33,470 --> 01:12:31,080
it's almost it uh but anyway uh you know

1793
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:33,480
see they were honoring a filmmaker that

1794
01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:36,000
we all like a lot and uh something I

1795
01:12:41,870 --> 01:12:38,580
like about that filmmaker is that the

1796
01:12:44,090 --> 01:12:41,880
blending of CGI and practicals I I will

1797
01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:44,100
stand I will go to my [\h__\h] grave

1798
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:46,440
standing by they are the best thing to

1799
01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:48,480
watch and I understand like doing a

1800
01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:51,060
prequel and wanting to like Smooth thing

1801
01:12:56,570 --> 01:12:54,179
out smooth things out with CGI because

1802
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:56,580
CGI is great for that right when you

1803
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:58,080
want something like Hellboy right which

1804
01:13:03,050 --> 01:13:00,480
is all these practical effects to it and

1805
01:13:04,970 --> 01:13:03,060
or cabinet Curiosities if you like that

1806
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,980
kind of stuff like things can get

1807
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:07,199
smoothed out with CGI and look great but

1808
01:13:10,850 --> 01:13:09,120
like the IDE like there is something

1809
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:10,860
about practicals that are really

1810
01:13:14,090 --> 01:13:12,719
tangible and for a movie like this right

1811
01:13:17,209 --> 01:13:14,100
where

1812
01:13:20,570 --> 01:13:17,219
what makes that alien so great

1813
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:20,580
um is that it feel it feels real or even

1814
01:13:24,590 --> 01:13:22,800
like I'll even go to like because Stan

1815
01:13:26,330 --> 01:13:24,600
Winston right like go like the original

1816
01:13:28,910 --> 01:13:26,340
Jurassic Park that chick holds up

1817
01:13:31,070 --> 01:13:28,920
because it is this really nice mix of

1818
01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:31,080
practicals in CGI

1819
01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:32,760
um so I think that like making that

1820
01:13:36,649 --> 01:13:34,860
choice I I get it I understand and CJ

1821
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:36,659
has come a long way and you can do cool

1822
01:13:41,810 --> 01:13:38,640
stuff with it but when you can use

1823
01:13:44,510 --> 01:13:41,820
practicals I really think that it it it

1824
01:13:45,709 --> 01:13:44,520
allows your film to stand up more

1825
01:13:47,689 --> 01:13:45,719
um it's one of my biggest things with

1826
01:13:50,450 --> 01:13:47,699
like the Star Wars prequels like when I

1827
01:13:52,910 --> 01:13:50,460
watch them is like it's so overly CGI

1828
01:13:54,590 --> 01:13:52,920
and green screen that like you feel it

1829
01:13:56,209 --> 01:13:54,600
because it doesn't age whereas like you

1830
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:56,219
watch Jurassic Park where

1831
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:58,320
obviously not all of it aged perfectly

1832
01:14:01,370 --> 01:13:59,280
but

1833
01:14:03,530 --> 01:14:01,380
[\h__\h] holds up and the things the same

1834
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:03,540
way like even the stuff that doesn't

1835
01:14:06,890 --> 01:14:04,800
look

1836
01:14:08,570 --> 01:14:06,900
real like when they use like a stuffed

1837
01:14:09,890 --> 01:14:08,580
dog or Amtrak dog and some of that in

1838
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:09,900
the in the scene where the dogs getting

1839
01:14:15,410 --> 01:14:12,719
just massacred but like the fact that

1840
01:14:17,450 --> 01:14:15,420
like that alien is so visceral in the

1841
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:17,460
way that it's created

1842
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:18,320
um

1843
01:14:22,970 --> 01:14:21,360
it just draws you in right because it's

1844
01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:22,980
one of the things where you can like

1845
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,260
it sounds strange but like you can feel

1846
01:14:28,850 --> 01:14:27,600
it tastes like you just you get all your

1847
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:28,860
senses are engaged because you don't

1848
01:14:32,689 --> 01:14:31,560
have any disconnect by knowing it's a

1849
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:32,699
computer

1850
01:14:37,970 --> 01:14:35,760
um and I listen I love CGI cgis

1851
01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:37,980
made some amazing movies that I love now

1852
01:14:42,050 --> 01:14:39,540
like superhero movies are at our Peak

1853
01:14:43,729 --> 01:14:42,060
because of CGI like you don't get that

1854
01:14:44,990 --> 01:14:43,739
cool [\h__\h] without CGI but there are just

1855
01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:45,000
things where like

1856
01:14:50,030 --> 01:14:48,060
sometimes it's better to just create it

1857
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:50,040
it just exactly and there's and there's

1858
01:14:54,050 --> 01:14:51,360
magic to that

1859
01:14:56,570 --> 01:14:54,060
there is yeah and it's a magic we don't

1860
01:14:58,729 --> 01:14:56,580
see that often anymore we see we did see

1861
01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:58,739
a lot of it I would say in stuff like

1862
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,920
the Lord of the Rings trilogy yeah but

1863
01:15:05,930 --> 01:15:04,080
then you hold the [\h__\h] up they hold up

1864
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:05,940
so well but then you get to The Hobbit

1865
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:08,100
trilogy and it's all CGI because they

1866
01:15:13,370 --> 01:15:10,560
just didn't have time and they got rid

1867
01:15:15,550 --> 01:15:13,380
of everything all the costumes all the

1868
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:15,560
props

1869
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:18,239
exactly that's a whole other story I

1870
01:15:22,430 --> 01:15:20,159
know yeah well um while we're on effects

1871
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:22,440
I've got three quick clips that I want

1872
01:15:25,070 --> 01:15:23,760
to run through with you if that's cool

1873
01:15:26,930 --> 01:15:25,080
buddy because I know you got to get

1874
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:26,940
going too yeah I got I got about another

1875
01:15:32,030 --> 01:15:29,520
20 minutes so okay perfect that that's

1876
01:15:35,149 --> 01:15:32,040
all I need if if even that

1877
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:35,159
um here's a clip of John Carpenter yeah

1878
01:15:39,169 --> 01:15:37,440
here's a clip of John Carpenter talking

1879
01:15:41,630 --> 01:15:39,179
about the effects in the thing I did

1880
01:15:43,250 --> 01:15:41,640
want to play this the thing can look

1881
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,260
like anything

1882
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:44,640
it doesn't have to look like one

1883
01:15:47,870 --> 01:15:45,840
creature

1884
01:15:49,850 --> 01:15:47,880
it could look like every life form it's

1885
01:15:53,930 --> 01:15:49,860
imitated throughout the Universe because

1886
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:53,940
it's been untraveled on its travels for

1887
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:56,640
a long long time

1888
01:16:01,550 --> 01:15:58,560
so it was a chance to create a monster

1889
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:01,560
that was designed based

1890
01:16:08,090 --> 01:16:04,080
and based on the movement we can give it

1891
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,100
and based on some really crazy

1892
01:16:11,630 --> 01:16:10,320
um kind of offbeat ideas I don't know

1893
01:16:13,729 --> 01:16:11,640
that there's been a monster done like

1894
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:13,739
this

1895
01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:21,600
just everything about it I I just

1896
01:16:26,689 --> 01:16:24,659
uh I I'm I'm so happy I finally have

1897
01:16:28,729 --> 01:16:26,699
been introduced to it um it's a master

1898
01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:28,739
class in filmmaking it really is I mean

1899
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:29,940
I wish like this is where I wish we

1900
01:16:32,649 --> 01:16:31,440
still had Andrea someone who was like a

1901
01:16:34,910 --> 01:16:32,659
behind the camera

1902
01:16:35,810 --> 01:16:34,920
is a writer too but like you know a

1903
01:16:38,450 --> 01:16:35,820
director

1904
01:16:40,610 --> 01:16:38,460
I you know it it just like you said my

1905
01:16:41,689 --> 01:16:40,620
only bet he was the three-person thing I

1906
01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:41,699
was just like why would you not be

1907
01:16:45,050 --> 01:16:43,320
traveling with three people

1908
01:16:46,430 --> 01:16:45,060
um and that's because I'm being nitpicky

1909
01:16:49,850 --> 01:16:46,440
I was like what can I nitpick about this

1910
01:16:51,950 --> 01:16:49,860
if that's the gripe then that's what God

1911
01:16:53,870 --> 01:16:51,960
was like you're drinking a lot which I

1912
01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:53,880
guess I get but as this like traveling

1913
01:16:57,709 --> 01:16:55,080
threes

1914
01:16:59,090 --> 01:16:57,719
um but like the pacing the character the

1915
01:17:00,590 --> 01:16:59,100
everything that's tangible about just

1916
01:17:02,450 --> 01:17:00,600
what he said like

1917
01:17:04,130 --> 01:17:02,460
one of the things I love you know

1918
01:17:05,450 --> 01:17:04,140
following somewhere in the sky so

1919
01:17:07,550 --> 01:17:05,460
listening to the stuff that you do from

1920
01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:07,560
my perspective like and and looking at

1921
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:10,080
like aliens right is I love when it's

1922
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:11,460
just [\h__\h] out of the box right

1923
01:17:14,570 --> 01:17:12,480
because

1924
01:17:16,729 --> 01:17:14,580
when it's not like a gray or something

1925
01:17:19,070 --> 01:17:16,739
that is really that we can really

1926
01:17:21,229 --> 01:17:19,080
connect with uh as humans we're like oh

1927
01:17:23,450 --> 01:17:21,239
we recognize that and we can like

1928
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:23,460
it's humanoid we can contextualize it

1929
01:17:27,709 --> 01:17:25,199
which is what you see a lot of aliens

1930
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,719
and pop culture video games movies like

1931
01:17:31,970 --> 01:17:30,000
that's how they do it because it's

1932
01:17:33,169 --> 01:17:31,980
relatable I guess I don't know maybe

1933
01:17:36,530 --> 01:17:33,179
that's not the right term this is where

1934
01:17:38,689 --> 01:17:36,540
I'm out of my skis of comprehension

1935
01:17:40,130 --> 01:17:38,699
right thank you um and so I love

1936
01:17:42,050 --> 01:17:40,140
especially Carver you're saying like

1937
01:17:43,790 --> 01:17:42,060
where you have a monster like a monster

1938
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:43,800
like an alien that is a monster that is

1939
01:17:48,890 --> 01:17:46,080
just so far beyond

1940
01:17:51,530 --> 01:17:48,900
anything that we can even like

1941
01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:51,540
understand I think that the creature

1942
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:53,640
Creation in this does that so well by

1943
01:17:57,729 --> 01:17:55,440
just being almost nonsensical like

1944
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,739
there's [\h__\h] dog heads popping out

1945
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,239
yeah well and it plays into the

1946
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:02,640
biological aspect too like it's trying

1947
01:18:07,090 --> 01:18:06,000
to replicate cells and clearly you know

1948
01:18:09,890 --> 01:18:07,100
it's having

1949
01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:09,900
excuse me guys I apologize I'm still

1950
01:18:14,350 --> 01:18:12,120
getting over the you know what not the

1951
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:14,360
thing the other thing

1952
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,000
the other thing uh biologically like

1953
01:18:23,090 --> 01:18:20,640
it's trying to replicate and personate

1954
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:23,100
and it's having kind of a hard time

1955
01:18:28,010 --> 01:18:24,719
doing that so that's why you're getting

1956
01:18:29,930 --> 01:18:28,020
like the dog popping out and also like

1957
01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:29,940
the head of one of the guys and it's

1958
01:18:34,910 --> 01:18:32,400
just like it's like AI it's trying to

1959
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:34,920
self-learn as it's replicating brilliant

1960
01:18:39,709 --> 01:18:37,199
and that's it's brilliant it's

1961
01:18:41,090 --> 01:18:39,719
disgusting it's beautiful it's uh and

1962
01:18:42,410 --> 01:18:41,100
with this film in general like this is

1963
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:42,420
the thing that I really appreciate and

1964
01:18:45,169 --> 01:18:43,679
you know I appreciate about this with

1965
01:18:46,669 --> 01:18:45,179
with almost everything I've watched from

1966
01:18:49,550 --> 01:18:46,679
John Carpenter like as I moved through

1967
01:18:51,050 --> 01:18:49,560
his Library as I you know watch films

1968
01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:51,060
um because I think we've talked about

1969
01:18:54,649 --> 01:18:52,380
this with Andrew and he's been here like

1970
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:54,659
Halloween is still like a pinnacle for

1971
01:19:00,770 --> 01:18:57,840
scary movies for me like it it is it is

1972
01:19:02,030 --> 01:19:00,780
my like foundational horror movie the

1973
01:19:04,010 --> 01:19:02,040
one that I will always go back to like

1974
01:19:07,070 --> 01:19:04,020
that is that is what did it for me and

1975
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:07,080
what I love about and he mentions like

1976
01:19:10,669 --> 01:19:09,120
his stories are complex but yet they're

1977
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:10,679
so very simple right so that thing like

1978
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:12,960
the thing can be anything because it's

1979
01:19:17,390 --> 01:19:15,840
a thing and so that allows him as a

1980
01:19:19,729 --> 01:19:17,400
filmmaker and the people that are

1981
01:19:23,810 --> 01:19:19,739
creating this film around him to just go

1982
01:19:26,750 --> 01:19:23,820
[\h__\h] crazy and like it really on it

1983
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:26,760
unlocks this like it gets them out of

1984
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:28,560
that box and I think it is it's

1985
01:19:31,790 --> 01:19:30,000
beautifully attitude and then within

1986
01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:31,800
that everything else in the story is

1987
01:19:38,510 --> 01:19:34,440
simple right like it is people trapped

1988
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,520
in a remote location in a small area in

1989
01:19:42,290 --> 01:19:41,040
a very we're like it's p it's person

1990
01:19:44,090 --> 01:19:42,300
like we talk about themes and

1991
01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:44,100
storytelling right it's person against

1992
01:19:49,310 --> 01:19:46,500
environment it's person against a a

1993
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:49,320
thing like uh an exterior force and

1994
01:19:54,590 --> 01:19:52,500
people against people and so it's such

1995
01:19:55,790 --> 01:19:54,600
he he hits on all these themes of

1996
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:55,800
Storytelling that we look at when we

1997
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:58,080
study theater right beautifully because

1998
01:20:01,610 --> 01:19:59,520
you have people you have people fighting

1999
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:01,620
people and you have people doing things

2000
01:20:06,830 --> 01:20:04,320
that make that conflict worse drinking

2001
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:06,840
or having an internal conflict or people

2002
01:20:12,110 --> 01:20:07,920
who are

2003
01:20:13,550 --> 01:20:12,120
just in general like like mccurt McCurdy

2004
01:20:15,709 --> 01:20:13,560
McCready

2005
01:20:17,450 --> 01:20:15,719
like he's not the person you want to put

2006
01:20:18,770 --> 01:20:17,460
in charge like everything about him when

2007
01:20:20,570 --> 01:20:18,780
they set that straight like this is not

2008
01:20:23,149 --> 01:20:20,580
the dude you want in charge he is

2009
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:23,159
already at his Wit's End coming into

2010
01:20:26,930 --> 01:20:24,719
this

2011
01:20:29,570 --> 01:20:26,940
um and so it just sets all these forces

2012
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:29,580
in motion before you're even dealing

2013
01:20:33,290 --> 01:20:30,480
with

2014
01:20:35,570 --> 01:20:33,300
like the the monster right and so I

2015
01:20:37,310 --> 01:20:35,580
think that Carpenter does that so

2016
01:20:39,050 --> 01:20:37,320
beautifully and like he doesn't

2017
01:20:40,669 --> 01:20:39,060
Halloween he doesn't the thing I mean

2018
01:20:43,070 --> 01:20:40,679
it's always like

2019
01:20:46,130 --> 01:20:43,080
these very simplistic stories built upon

2020
01:20:47,570 --> 01:20:46,140
tension built upon people fighting

2021
01:20:48,890 --> 01:20:47,580
against different things in their

2022
01:20:50,810 --> 01:20:48,900
environment but he never over

2023
01:20:52,430 --> 01:20:50,820
complicates things

2024
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:52,440
um and I think that works so well in

2025
01:20:55,070 --> 01:20:54,000
this film he doesn't there are so many

2026
01:20:56,090 --> 01:20:55,080
questions that just don't need to be

2027
01:20:58,370 --> 01:20:56,100
answered

2028
01:21:00,649 --> 01:20:58,380
yeah and I think and he just does it

2029
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:00,659
it's great it does it and he does it at

2030
01:21:05,450 --> 01:21:04,080
the end too leaving it so ambiguous that

2031
01:21:08,209 --> 01:21:05,460
um you know people left the theater

2032
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:08,219
pissed um and others were like oh that

2033
01:21:12,290 --> 01:21:10,800
was brilliant uh timing timing is

2034
01:21:14,450 --> 01:21:12,300
something we brought up earlier in the

2035
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,460
conversation the context of the time the

2036
01:21:19,130 --> 01:21:16,800
AIDS epidemic this that this that when

2037
01:21:22,010 --> 01:21:19,140
the thing came out in theaters

2038
01:21:24,890 --> 01:21:22,020
it was the same week if I'm not mistaken

2039
01:21:27,470 --> 01:21:24,900
or maybe like a weak difference with E.T

2040
01:21:31,130 --> 01:21:27,480
Steven Spielberg's

2041
01:21:33,169 --> 01:21:31,140
um you know Blockbuster film of a very

2042
01:21:36,830 --> 01:21:33,179
lovable

2043
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:36,840
alien and his little buddy and then you

2044
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:40,800
have this come out this thing this

2045
01:21:46,010 --> 01:21:43,199
extremely

2046
01:21:48,530 --> 01:21:46,020
um dark desolate nihilistic like I said

2047
01:21:50,930 --> 01:21:48,540
earlier film that takes a different

2048
01:21:54,110 --> 01:21:50,940
approach to the whole alien thing so you

2049
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:54,120
had these two competing things I keep

2050
01:21:58,490 --> 01:21:56,400
using the word thing I apologize uh

2051
01:22:01,010 --> 01:21:58,500
going on first encounters come out when

2052
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:01,020
his first Encounters in this timeline oh

2053
01:22:05,930 --> 01:22:03,840
gosh that is a very good question I

2054
01:22:08,570 --> 01:22:05,940
don't know the answer that's 70s right

2055
01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:08,580
like late 70s I want to say late 70s

2056
01:22:13,850 --> 01:22:12,000
like 78 79 maybe someone will definitely

2057
01:22:15,229 --> 01:22:13,860
correct me in the chat I would love to

2058
01:22:16,910 --> 01:22:15,239
know so that's interesting is you have

2059
01:22:18,290 --> 01:22:16,920
things like first encounters first

2060
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:18,300
encounter and then you have this movie

2061
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:20,400
like this idea of aliens and like how we

2062
01:22:25,250 --> 01:22:22,800
approach it differently too because yeah

2063
01:22:27,290 --> 01:22:25,260
even within tet there's aspects of

2064
01:22:29,209 --> 01:22:27,300
horror I mean I think about like I just

2065
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:29,219
watched it with my son like five months

2066
01:22:33,050 --> 01:22:30,239
ago

2067
01:22:35,630 --> 01:22:33,060
um like when ET dies right like

2068
01:22:37,250 --> 01:22:35,640
like it is kind of scary like you taste

2069
01:22:40,130 --> 01:22:37,260
that movie there's some moments isn't it

2070
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:40,140
when he throws the ball into the you

2071
01:22:43,790 --> 01:22:41,400
know he throws the ball and then the

2072
01:22:46,370 --> 01:22:43,800
ball comes it's like Pinnacle horror

2073
01:22:49,669 --> 01:22:46,380
right there but then yeah you you've got

2074
01:22:51,470 --> 01:22:49,679
some moments um but it's more of a

2075
01:22:53,390 --> 01:22:51,480
family friendly film these I wonder what

2076
01:22:54,830 --> 01:22:53,400
the connection of doing these like 77

2077
01:22:56,930 --> 01:22:54,840
thank you grad

2078
01:22:58,729 --> 01:22:56,940
um I just wonder why thematically that

2079
01:23:01,250 --> 01:22:58,739
was carrying over because that's I mean

2080
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:01,260
that's to me very telling you of these

2081
01:23:05,930 --> 01:23:03,600
three from from one two from the same

2082
01:23:08,090 --> 01:23:05,940
director right dealing with this idea of

2083
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:08,100
space and aliens and something

2084
01:23:12,590 --> 01:23:12,000
coming to us right

2085
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:12,600
um

2086
01:23:17,149 --> 01:23:15,360
I don't know sorry I'm I'm sorry I don't

2087
01:23:18,169 --> 01:23:17,159
know I think that's a good point it's a

2088
01:23:21,770 --> 01:23:18,179
very interesting thing to think about

2089
01:23:23,570 --> 01:23:21,780
thematically it is and again I I it is

2090
01:23:25,490 --> 01:23:23,580
thematically and I think Carpenter did

2091
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:25,500
that so brilliantly but clearly

2092
01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:27,840
audiences did not want that at the time

2093
01:23:33,709 --> 01:23:30,420
I have a clip of carpenter talking about

2094
01:23:36,350 --> 01:23:33,719
how poorly the thing was received which

2095
01:23:40,510 --> 01:23:36,360
is insane that all three of us love this

2096
01:23:44,570 --> 01:23:42,950
yeah the only other Perfect Tour film I

2097
01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:44,580
can think of that did a genre perfectly

2098
01:23:48,050 --> 01:23:46,800
if you were insidious insidious is

2099
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:48,060
another horror movie that I think like

2100
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:51,060
nails its [\h__\h] genre of like haunted

2101
01:23:56,450 --> 01:23:52,800
house type genre like

2102
01:23:58,669 --> 01:23:56,460
Nails it and this nails like a an alien

2103
01:24:01,310 --> 01:23:58,679
like a alien monster movie yeah okay

2104
01:24:03,470 --> 01:24:01,320
sci-fi horror movie yeah let's um let me

2105
01:24:05,090 --> 01:24:03,480
play this clip this was uh Carpenter

2106
01:24:07,370 --> 01:24:05,100
talking about you know many years later

2107
01:24:09,530 --> 01:24:07,380
how the film was received and it it

2108
01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:09,540
didn't bomb let's say that first of all

2109
01:24:13,850 --> 01:24:12,120
it uh it made 19 million in the box

2110
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:13,860
office against a 15 million dollar

2111
01:24:19,310 --> 01:24:15,840
budget so it's like so it made of them

2112
01:24:20,530 --> 01:24:19,320
exactly exactly all right yeah

2113
01:24:24,590 --> 01:24:20,540
um

2114
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:24,600
DC movies yeah critically and audience

2115
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:27,360
wise it just was people hated the thing

2116
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:30,000
back then that's crazy um let's watch

2117
01:24:33,229 --> 01:24:31,920
this clip yeah

2118
01:24:35,149 --> 01:24:33,239
um over the years people have asked me

2119
01:24:37,610 --> 01:24:35,159
about the thing because uh on its

2120
01:24:40,010 --> 01:24:37,620
release it was not particularly

2121
01:24:43,010 --> 01:24:40,020
successful

2122
01:24:46,130 --> 01:24:43,020
with audiences or fans but years later

2123
01:24:48,110 --> 01:24:46,140
because of home video and so forth it it

2124
01:24:50,570 --> 01:24:48,120
got to be known a little bit better

2125
01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:50,580
my reaction I was pretty stunned by it

2126
01:24:55,370 --> 01:24:53,400
at the time because I made a really

2127
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:55,380
grueling dark film and I just don't

2128
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:57,120
think audiences

2129
01:25:01,490 --> 01:25:00,000
in 1982 wanted to see that they wanted

2130
01:25:04,910 --> 01:25:01,500
to see ET

2131
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:04,920
and the thing was the opposite of that

2132
01:25:09,410 --> 01:25:06,960
the thing that Disturbed that the thing

2133
01:25:12,350 --> 01:25:09,420
that Disturbed me about it was that the

2134
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,360
fans turned out hating it so much

2135
01:25:17,450 --> 01:25:14,880
there was a famous magazine back then

2136
01:25:19,790 --> 01:25:17,460
called Sydney fantastic which

2137
01:25:22,189 --> 01:25:19,800
was loved and hated by various directors

2138
01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:22,199
and they had a cover a story that said

2139
01:25:28,370 --> 01:25:25,500
is this the most hated film of all time

2140
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:28,380
which didn't do a lot to assuage my ego

2141
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:30,780
but over I'm very proud of the movie

2142
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:32,880
I've always loved it it's uh it's one of

2143
01:25:43,850 --> 01:25:39,530
that is heartbreaking to hear yeah I

2144
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:43,860
mean he is so proud of it and it was so

2145
01:25:49,070 --> 01:25:46,800
hated when it came out it just it

2146
01:25:50,990 --> 01:25:49,080
astounds me it absolutely does I mean

2147
01:25:54,649 --> 01:25:51,000
the reviews were terrible

2148
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,659
um and until like we got out of the idea

2149
01:25:59,149 --> 01:25:57,120
of like Spielberg and these which you

2150
01:26:01,610 --> 01:25:59,159
see in my background here these are

2151
01:26:03,890 --> 01:26:01,620
great cereals I have um you don't have

2152
01:26:05,330 --> 01:26:03,900
this lovey-dovey feel well Grandpa have

2153
01:26:08,689 --> 01:26:05,340
a good point too this is coming off of

2154
01:26:11,870 --> 01:26:08,699
alien too which is interesting

2155
01:26:13,729 --> 01:26:11,880
right but think about that yeah I mean

2156
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:13,739
alien is also [\h__\h] great I can't lie

2157
01:26:18,110 --> 01:26:16,620
I mean I can't I can't lie alien is also

2158
01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:18,120
[\h__\h] fantastic but it's a different

2159
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:19,560
kind of horror film it's a different

2160
01:26:23,149 --> 01:26:22,560
like it's a different Beast right

2161
01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:23,159
um

2162
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:24,960
but maybe that's two of the two I don't

2163
01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:27,900
know it's I I still like

2164
01:26:34,209 --> 01:26:31,199
I I can't fathom it like watching it now

2165
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:36,890
like about this movie yeah I just don't

2166
01:26:39,709 --> 01:26:37,920
again

2167
01:26:42,590 --> 01:26:39,719
I I think a lot of it came down to

2168
01:26:45,229 --> 01:26:42,600
timing I I think it really was the time

2169
01:26:46,729 --> 01:26:45,239
the movie released and uh what it was

2170
01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:46,739
going up against you hear that all the

2171
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,840
time when movies come out with like a

2172
01:26:53,570 --> 01:26:51,120
Marvel Blockbuster and they just tank

2173
01:26:54,890 --> 01:26:53,580
and it's it has a lot to do with your

2174
01:26:56,570 --> 01:26:54,900
release date

2175
01:26:59,330 --> 01:26:56,580
um and then it has a lot to do with

2176
01:27:02,030 --> 01:26:59,340
those uh you know writing these reviews

2177
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:02,040
and whatnot and he just got ripped apart

2178
01:27:06,770 --> 01:27:03,840
I mean to the point where dude like he

2179
01:27:09,229 --> 01:27:06,780
says this film ruined his career

2180
01:27:11,390 --> 01:27:09,239
um he was never taken as seriously after

2181
01:27:13,970 --> 01:27:11,400
this movie came out and people thought

2182
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:13,980
you know he he this was it like he had

2183
01:27:18,890 --> 01:27:16,800
his one shot and and he was done so I

2184
01:27:20,689 --> 01:27:18,900
wonder sorry now I'm on I'm thinking

2185
01:27:22,669 --> 01:27:20,699
about this like I wonder too like the

2186
01:27:23,629 --> 01:27:22,679
only thing I could point to and this is

2187
01:27:25,250 --> 01:27:23,639
something that like I think we

2188
01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:25,260
appreciate right I think people probably

2189
01:27:28,370 --> 01:27:27,060
appreciate it you know is because the

2190
01:27:32,890 --> 01:27:28,380
thing is so

2191
01:27:35,330 --> 01:27:32,900
the actual monster in this movie is so

2192
01:27:38,570 --> 01:27:35,340
non-corporeal that man it says corporeal

2193
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,669
sorry I'm trying to think about like

2194
01:27:45,649 --> 01:27:43,440
it's not a set thing it's it keep using

2195
01:27:48,770 --> 01:27:45,659
more thing it's not a set being right it

2196
01:27:51,050 --> 01:27:48,780
is this like really like it changes all

2197
01:27:52,189 --> 01:27:51,060
the time it's not this like like an like

2198
01:27:53,810 --> 01:27:52,199
we look at the other horror movie that

2199
01:27:56,270 --> 01:27:53,820
Grant brought up like you have alien

2200
01:27:58,070 --> 01:27:56,280
right like alien like you understand

2201
01:27:59,689 --> 01:27:58,080
what that monster is you see that

2202
01:28:02,390 --> 01:27:59,699
monster that monster makes sense you can

2203
01:28:05,209 --> 01:28:02,400
you can understand what it is to fear it

2204
01:28:07,250 --> 01:28:05,219
and fight it and like you can get into

2205
01:28:09,530 --> 01:28:07,260
that mindset right or you even look at

2206
01:28:12,410 --> 01:28:09,540
like E.T which is not a horror movie but

2207
01:28:14,450 --> 01:28:12,420
like that alien makes sense and this

2208
01:28:16,129 --> 01:28:14,460
alien does not which is what I think is

2209
01:28:18,590 --> 01:28:16,139
[\h__\h] brilliant about it but like

2210
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:18,600
there's no like it doesn't it's so

2211
01:28:23,870 --> 01:28:21,600
outside of our concept of what it is as

2212
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:23,880
what it is of something to fight

2213
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:27,120
um or be in contention with

2214
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:28,800
um that I wonder if that comes into play

2215
01:28:33,470 --> 01:28:30,960
is it's like well this is so [\h__\h] out

2216
01:28:35,570 --> 01:28:33,480
there that doesn't even like

2217
01:28:37,370 --> 01:28:35,580
it doesn't even make sense to us as a

2218
01:28:39,229 --> 01:28:37,380
storytelling apparatus

2219
01:28:40,610 --> 01:28:39,239
um at the time

2220
01:28:42,350 --> 01:28:40,620
because like it doesn't make sense that

2221
01:28:43,970 --> 01:28:42,360
alien would be so successful but then

2222
01:28:45,470 --> 01:28:43,980
this wouldn't right because again I will

2223
01:28:46,669 --> 01:28:45,480
I will stand by

2224
01:28:49,310 --> 01:28:46,679
I mean

2225
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:49,320
you can all hate me now I I will take

2226
01:28:52,189 --> 01:28:50,880
Sigourney Weaver's main character over

2227
01:28:54,189 --> 01:28:52,199
Kurt Russell

2228
01:28:57,470 --> 01:28:54,199
I think she's a better written character

2229
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:57,480
uh but aside from that Kurt Russell is

2230
01:29:01,129 --> 01:28:58,800
great

2231
01:29:02,930 --> 01:29:01,139
um but there's just like a last because

2232
01:29:05,090 --> 01:29:02,940
I think he's doing something a little

2233
01:29:07,250 --> 01:29:05,100
more complicated like

2234
01:29:09,290 --> 01:29:07,260
Sigourney Sigourney Weaver is like she's

2235
01:29:11,209 --> 01:29:09,300
a pinnacle hero right like you put her

2236
01:29:13,070 --> 01:29:11,219
into that she's an underdog it makes her

2237
01:29:15,709 --> 01:29:13,080
a pinnacle hero even if she is still

2238
01:29:17,149 --> 01:29:15,719
those themes right fighting against an

2239
01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:17,159
alien fighting against place and

2240
01:29:21,890 --> 01:29:18,719
fighting against people right she still

2241
01:29:24,530 --> 01:29:21,900
has the same three themes but she is so

2242
01:29:26,270 --> 01:29:24,540
likable and so and so well written I

2243
01:29:27,410 --> 01:29:26,280
mean she's one of the best that Ripley

2244
01:29:29,629 --> 01:29:27,420
is one of the best

2245
01:29:32,090 --> 01:29:29,639
written female Action characters and we

2246
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:32,100
look at this genre in my opinion

2247
01:29:36,350 --> 01:29:34,080
um so she's so easy to root for and like

2248
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:36,360
Kurt Russell's character just isn't I

2249
01:29:41,810 --> 01:29:38,639
like him he's charismatic but it's not

2250
01:29:44,209 --> 01:29:41,820
the same kind of like

2251
01:29:47,570 --> 01:29:44,219
hero he's not the same kind of hero then

2252
01:29:49,790 --> 01:29:47,580
put up against a non-like understandable

2253
01:29:52,370 --> 01:29:49,800
villain right I think it just

2254
01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:52,380
it's almost like too smart in some ways

2255
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:55,199
or is it maybe that's part of it like

2256
01:30:00,410 --> 01:29:57,600
it's harder to like

2257
01:30:03,169 --> 01:30:00,420
in I don't know to engage with it in the

2258
01:30:06,830 --> 01:30:04,610
you're muted

2259
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:06,840
I I was just having a you were just

2260
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:08,639
having a conversation with yourself no I

2261
01:30:12,410 --> 01:30:10,320
what I meant to say is I agree with you

2262
01:30:14,510 --> 01:30:12,420
I think it was it was it went over

2263
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:14,520
people's heads it was ahead of its time

2264
01:30:19,910 --> 01:30:17,280
uh you had like kind of the talent of

2265
01:30:21,890 --> 01:30:19,920
the Cold War happening still and like

2266
01:30:24,590 --> 01:30:21,900
that could have played into it too like

2267
01:30:26,810 --> 01:30:24,600
this fear of like you know the Red Scare

2268
01:30:28,250 --> 01:30:26,820
blah blah blah blah there's so many ways

2269
01:30:30,770 --> 01:30:28,260
you could put this movie in the context

2270
01:30:32,990 --> 01:30:30,780
of why it worked and why it didn't and I

2271
01:30:34,910 --> 01:30:33,000
think that's what any good film does

2272
01:30:36,590 --> 01:30:34,920
yeah and I think that's why like people

2273
01:30:39,890 --> 01:30:36,600
at chat said we're still talking about

2274
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:39,900
the thing today yeah I mean like we are

2275
01:30:44,510 --> 01:30:42,239
just getting introduced to it and then

2276
01:30:46,910 --> 01:30:44,520
it holds up right then as a film oh God

2277
01:30:49,250 --> 01:30:46,920
it still holds up and like that's better

2278
01:30:51,110 --> 01:30:49,260
than 99 of the horror movies out there

2279
01:30:53,209 --> 01:30:51,120
right now I can tell you that much yeah

2280
01:30:54,290 --> 01:30:53,219
I mean you really remember again my

2281
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:54,300
brother was like you've got to watch it

2282
01:30:57,530 --> 01:30:55,679
so I'm like okay

2283
01:30:59,090 --> 01:30:57,540
you know um because he loves his dating

2284
01:31:00,950 --> 01:30:59,100
like my brother's like a true child of

2285
01:31:03,290 --> 01:31:00,960
the 80s and so yeah

2286
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:03,300
um and he's got good taste in my opinion

2287
01:31:07,490 --> 01:31:04,800
so you know I watched and I'm like oh

2288
01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:07,500
yeah this [\h__\h] like sometimes a lot like

2289
01:31:11,629 --> 01:31:08,880
he made me he's like you gotta watch

2290
01:31:14,330 --> 01:31:11,639
fright night and I was like oh yeah it's

2291
01:31:17,390 --> 01:31:14,340
okay like it's okay like all right yeah

2292
01:31:19,550 --> 01:31:17,400
yeah I get why you liked it like I like

2293
01:31:21,290 --> 01:31:19,560
it but like this one I was like no this

2294
01:31:22,970 --> 01:31:21,300
[\h__\h] holds up this [\h__\h] is

2295
01:31:25,610 --> 01:31:22,980
like Andrew said like they just you

2296
01:31:27,410 --> 01:31:25,620
re-watch it I watched it again and had a

2297
01:31:29,390 --> 01:31:27,420
whole different like

2298
01:31:31,129 --> 01:31:29,400
I was like wait you know like my mind

2299
01:31:33,530 --> 01:31:31,139
started like spinning on who is the

2300
01:31:34,850 --> 01:31:33,540
first person to be the alien but there's

2301
01:31:36,530 --> 01:31:34,860
all these things that Carpenter does

2302
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:36,540
which we've talked about that I think

2303
01:31:39,709 --> 01:31:38,400
just aren't utilizing film the scene the

2304
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:39,719
scene fade outs right that's another

2305
01:31:43,550 --> 01:31:41,280
thing that just

2306
01:31:45,830 --> 01:31:43,560
where I think we appreciate it we're

2307
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:45,840
like oh that's great especially people

2308
01:31:49,129 --> 01:31:48,000
who have theater backgrounds but I could

2309
01:31:51,590 --> 01:31:49,139
see someone watching and being like

2310
01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:51,600
that's stupid why did you do that I uh

2311
01:31:55,850 --> 01:31:53,760
exactly yeah

2312
01:31:58,490 --> 01:31:55,860
um it's interesting um well you know who

2313
01:32:00,410 --> 01:31:58,500
did love this movie two people the first

2314
01:32:03,229 --> 01:32:00,420
one we're gonna briefly go through is

2315
01:32:05,090 --> 01:32:03,239
Chris Carter of the X-Files so much so

2316
01:32:07,850 --> 01:32:05,100
that he made an episode of The X-Files

2317
01:32:10,250 --> 01:32:07,860
titled Ice which dude if you haven't

2318
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:10,260
watched it go watch it have you were you

2319
01:32:14,450 --> 01:32:12,480
an X-Files fan I don't know yes I did

2320
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,460
not like you XR scaled the [\h__\h] out of

2321
01:32:18,290 --> 01:32:16,080
me so I was like I watched it like with

2322
01:32:20,930 --> 01:32:18,300
bated breath okay

2323
01:32:23,810 --> 01:32:20,940
um they did an episode called ice it was

2324
01:32:26,209 --> 01:32:23,820
in the first season I believe and it was

2325
01:32:27,950 --> 01:32:26,219
in homage to this film I want to play a

2326
01:32:29,570 --> 01:32:27,960
quick promo of when that episode

2327
01:32:31,990 --> 01:32:29,580
originally released I think it was back

2328
01:32:34,490 --> 01:32:32,000
in 1993

2329
01:32:36,709 --> 01:32:34,500
beneath the Arctic Circle and ancient

2330
01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:36,719
Terror sleeps nothing can survive for a

2331
01:32:41,149 --> 01:32:38,639
quarter of a million years waking it was

2332
01:32:46,750 --> 01:32:41,159
their first mistake trying to stop it

2333
01:32:52,970 --> 01:32:50,149
put it down oh

2334
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:56,810
dude how much do you miss that Friday at

2335
01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:57,920
nine

2336
01:33:02,090 --> 01:33:00,239
don't watch it alone

2337
01:33:05,450 --> 01:33:02,100
um one of the best episodes of The

2338
01:33:09,350 --> 01:33:05,460
X-Files but clearly like down to the dog

2339
01:33:10,370 --> 01:33:09,360
down to like the Antarctic sort of feel

2340
01:33:14,149 --> 01:33:10,380
to it

2341
01:33:16,129 --> 01:33:14,159
suggest people check it out you may

2342
01:33:18,169 --> 01:33:16,139
mentioned just how like [\h__\h] so sorry

2343
01:33:20,570 --> 01:33:18,179
not an X-Files no

2344
01:33:24,110 --> 01:33:20,580
just how [\h__\h] good Julian Anderson is

2345
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:24,120
like that woman has come into her own

2346
01:33:27,290 --> 01:33:25,920
like I think when that show ended people

2347
01:33:29,390 --> 01:33:27,300
are like oh you see and now you're like

2348
01:33:31,450 --> 01:33:29,400
no she's [\h__\h] brilliant

2349
01:33:34,189 --> 01:33:31,460
shots incredible

2350
01:33:37,729 --> 01:33:34,199
so I just I have a talent crush and an

2351
01:33:40,010 --> 01:33:37,739
actual Crush who doesn't it's fine she

2352
01:33:41,870 --> 01:33:40,020
was even like she was even pretty not

2353
01:33:43,550 --> 01:33:41,880
bad looking as Margaret Thatcher too

2354
01:33:44,510 --> 01:33:43,560
she's good in every well that's like

2355
01:33:45,649 --> 01:33:44,520
when they did she played Eleanor

2356
01:33:47,450 --> 01:33:45,659
Roosevelt I'm like she's too pretty to

2357
01:33:49,129 --> 01:33:47,460
be Eleanor Roosevelt that woman yeah I

2358
01:33:50,510 --> 01:33:49,139
think it's on Roosevelt brilliant woman

2359
01:33:53,090 --> 01:33:50,520
but like

2360
01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:53,100
historically it was not a looker

2361
01:33:59,689 --> 01:33:57,120
um yeah and she just she just is she did

2362
01:34:02,030 --> 01:33:59,699
it we could get doing a whole episode on

2363
01:34:04,910 --> 01:34:02,040
Julian Andrew Talent across Julian

2364
01:34:08,090 --> 01:34:04,920
Anderson bring back the X-Files Ian says

2365
01:34:09,770 --> 01:34:08,100
that voiceover too was great I love it

2366
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:09,780
um Nick how much more time do you have

2367
01:34:13,689 --> 01:34:11,760
buddy I got like I got like I got like

2368
01:34:16,970 --> 01:34:13,699
five minutes

2369
01:34:18,890 --> 01:34:16,980
okay I got you for five perfect

2370
01:34:22,370 --> 01:34:18,900
um one more clip from our very good

2371
01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:22,380
friend who absolutely loved this movie

2372
01:34:28,310 --> 01:34:24,480
um we didn't have him tonight but he did

2373
01:34:32,110 --> 01:34:28,320
send us a message is it Dennis it's one

2374
01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:34,910
hi everyone my name is Dennis callow I'm

2375
01:34:38,570 --> 01:34:36,480
a photographer and a filmmaker and I'm

2376
01:34:40,610 --> 01:34:38,580
also a YouTuber now I guess because I

2377
01:34:43,550 --> 01:34:40,620
make Documentaries about horror films

2378
01:34:45,110 --> 01:34:43,560
and put it up on YouTube uh and one of

2379
01:34:46,910 --> 01:34:45,120
my favorite films that I just covered

2380
01:34:48,649 --> 01:34:46,920
there's part one and part two that's on

2381
01:34:50,390 --> 01:34:48,659
my Channel right now is the thing which

2382
01:34:53,330 --> 01:34:50,400
is what you guys are talking about right

2383
01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:53,340
now and the reason why I love this movie

2384
01:34:58,010 --> 01:34:55,679
is not just because it is is a complete

2385
01:35:01,310 --> 01:34:58,020
and total master class and Masterpiece

2386
01:35:04,370 --> 01:35:01,320
in Phil of filmmaking but it there's a

2387
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:04,380
really sad story that comes along with

2388
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:07,679
it and the story of John Carpenter sort

2389
01:35:13,729 --> 01:35:10,800
of uh being called a hack after this

2390
01:35:17,870 --> 01:35:13,739
movie was made and I it's it's kind of

2391
01:35:20,810 --> 01:35:17,880
incredible to think about that now uh in

2392
01:35:24,649 --> 01:35:20,820
hindsight but there was a lot to do with

2393
01:35:27,649 --> 01:35:24,659
time and timing which I talk about in uh

2394
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:27,659
my series that

2395
01:35:31,850 --> 01:35:29,400
um that affected the film and that

2396
01:35:34,790 --> 01:35:31,860
affected him as a filmmaker other than

2397
01:35:37,550 --> 01:35:34,800
that this film is just a master class

2398
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:37,560
intention and Dread and winter horror

2399
01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:39,360
which is my favorite type of horror I

2400
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:41,760
love cold weather and I love cold

2401
01:35:45,530 --> 01:35:43,199
weather horror because it just adds

2402
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:45,540
another layer cake of tension in that

2403
01:35:50,689 --> 01:35:48,719
and when you get a bunch of guys in in a

2404
01:35:52,370 --> 01:35:50,699
research station in the Antarctic who

2405
01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:52,380
have been going stir crazy with nothing

2406
01:35:57,110 --> 01:35:54,840
but like computer chess and whiskey to

2407
01:35:58,729 --> 01:35:57,120
keep them company you're gonna get a

2408
01:36:03,229 --> 01:35:58,739
nice little recipe for disaster there

2409
01:36:06,290 --> 01:36:03,239
but uh it's really just a fantastic

2410
01:36:08,510 --> 01:36:06,300
fantastic film I can't enough about it

2411
01:36:09,950 --> 01:36:08,520
but I do say enough about it on my on my

2412
01:36:12,169 --> 01:36:09,960
YouTube channel with the with the

2413
01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:12,179
documentaries that I made uh on the film

2414
01:36:17,209 --> 01:36:13,440
so

2415
01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:17,219
I hope you enjoy this discussion and uh

2416
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:20,400
I'll give it back to Andrew Nick and uh

2417
01:36:26,209 --> 01:36:22,800
Ryan Sprague the king of the hour

2418
01:36:28,970 --> 01:36:26,219
take care fellow believers

2419
01:36:30,830 --> 01:36:28,980
I love him so much I'm all about log

2420
01:36:33,110 --> 01:36:30,840
rolling people that I like so I long

2421
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:33,120
rolled Andrew as a brilliant filmmaker I

2422
01:36:36,410 --> 01:36:35,040
log wrote Eric who's here as a brilliant

2423
01:36:39,110 --> 01:36:36,420
filmmaker who I've been lucky enough to

2424
01:36:43,070 --> 01:36:39,120
work with Ryan and I have made a movie

2425
01:36:45,649 --> 01:36:43,080
that dude Dennis you guys go check out

2426
01:36:47,209 --> 01:36:45,659
his stuff he is check out Ryan's podcast

2427
01:36:49,610 --> 01:36:47,219
with him if you haven't seen that when

2428
01:36:52,070 --> 01:36:49,620
we all chatted he is a great man a great

2429
01:36:53,930 --> 01:36:52,080
filmmaker and loves himself some Horror

2430
01:36:55,490 --> 01:36:53,940
in a beautiful way

2431
01:36:57,169 --> 01:36:55,500
um absolutely go check him out because

2432
01:36:58,910 --> 01:36:57,179
he's great go check him out there's a

2433
01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:58,920
link right down there guys in the show

2434
01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:01,199
notes for Dennis's two-part series on

2435
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:03,600
the thing go check it out right his

2436
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:05,520
Halloween part free which I had not seen

2437
01:37:09,890 --> 01:37:07,920
to that is also brilliant Season of the

2438
01:37:11,090 --> 01:37:09,900
Witch yep yes brilliant oh he's an

2439
01:37:13,129 --> 01:37:11,100
awesome guy guys

2440
01:37:14,930 --> 01:37:13,139
um be on the lookout in the future for

2441
01:37:16,910 --> 01:37:14,940
projects maybe having to do with Dennis

2442
01:37:18,590 --> 01:37:16,920
and Nick and myself

2443
01:37:20,590 --> 01:37:18,600
um more to come on that my shirt might

2444
01:37:22,790 --> 01:37:20,600
come off you never know

2445
01:37:24,110 --> 01:37:22,800
too you never know I mean really God

2446
01:37:27,050 --> 01:37:24,120
damn it does come off and everything I

2447
01:37:28,189 --> 01:37:27,060
do it came off in my film too I know and

2448
01:37:29,810 --> 01:37:28,199
your sister thought it was hot which

2449
01:37:32,410 --> 01:37:29,820
I'll never let you forget

2450
01:37:35,209 --> 01:37:32,420
oh God don't remind me

2451
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:35,219
that's in great shape

2452
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:36,239
um

2453
01:37:41,689 --> 01:37:40,080
uh Nicholas westmeyer I know you guys

2454
01:37:43,310 --> 01:37:41,699
when it's over can we actually do that

2455
01:37:45,470 --> 01:37:43,320
you shouldn't have Christmas yeah it's

2456
01:37:46,970 --> 01:37:45,480
his favorite video game absolutely I

2457
01:37:48,770 --> 01:37:46,980
gotta go watch it I'm probably gonna

2458
01:37:50,570 --> 01:37:48,780
watch that next I'm just gonna message

2459
01:37:52,669 --> 01:37:50,580
you about doing a side thing because

2460
01:37:54,290 --> 01:37:52,679
okay this should be monthly right guys

2461
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,300
chat should it be monthly it should be

2462
01:37:58,570 --> 01:37:56,159
monthly should we do a monthly movie

2463
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:58,580
review guys

2464
01:38:02,990 --> 01:38:01,040
look at that face

2465
01:38:05,330 --> 01:38:03,000
you know what would get us some super

2466
01:38:07,330 --> 01:38:05,340
chats take that vest off Mr Mr

2467
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:07,340
westermeyer if you will

2468
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:09,920
wow

2469
01:38:13,010 --> 01:38:12,239
for you I got the same looking good

2470
01:38:15,709 --> 01:38:13,020
buddy

2471
01:38:19,490 --> 01:38:15,719
looking looking wintry I love it I know

2472
01:38:21,169 --> 01:38:19,500
um hey before we go any last words on

2473
01:38:23,570 --> 01:38:21,179
the thing that you want to leave the

2474
01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:23,580
audience with tonight I you know I can't

2475
01:38:26,689 --> 01:38:25,320
sound as smart as Andrew or you um I

2476
01:38:27,950 --> 01:38:26,699
think it's a great film I think I really

2477
01:38:30,410 --> 01:38:27,960
do I agree with everything that Dennis

2478
01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:30,420
said um we use the mask we would use the

2479
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:31,920
word masterclass a lot and I mean that

2480
01:38:37,550 --> 01:38:35,760
like it is it is a damn near perfect

2481
01:38:38,810 --> 01:38:37,560
horror film and what it is like in the

2482
01:38:40,490 --> 01:38:38,820
genre that it's doing and what it's

2483
01:38:41,629 --> 01:38:40,500
trying to accomplish it stands up really

2484
01:38:43,310 --> 01:38:41,639
well

2485
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:43,320
um it was enjoyable on multiple viewings

2486
01:38:46,189 --> 01:38:44,639
which I always think is another thing

2487
01:38:48,410 --> 01:38:46,199
about horror films if you can go back

2488
01:38:50,209 --> 01:38:48,420
and re-watch a horror film when you know

2489
01:38:52,250 --> 01:38:50,219
the points that are happening and it's

2490
01:38:54,169 --> 01:38:52,260
still good that's when you know it's

2491
01:38:56,689 --> 01:38:54,179
well done because horror that doesn't

2492
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,699
have rewatch ability not that it's not

2493
01:39:01,490 --> 01:38:58,800
enjoyable in the moment but

2494
01:39:03,110 --> 01:39:01,500
I think doesn't have that same lasting

2495
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:03,120
impact and this definitely is one that

2496
01:39:07,490 --> 01:39:05,040
like you can keep going back and

2497
01:39:09,649 --> 01:39:07,500
revisiting and like picking out stuff

2498
01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:09,659
and making like

2499
01:39:13,070 --> 01:39:11,280
uh thoughts about and trying to figure

2500
01:39:14,810 --> 01:39:13,080
out what's happening and and I think it

2501
01:39:16,669 --> 01:39:14,820
just in that way the fact that John

2502
01:39:18,530 --> 01:39:16,679
Carpenter is not considered I mean I

2503
01:39:20,629 --> 01:39:18,540
know he is but the anyone ever think

2504
01:39:22,370 --> 01:39:20,639
he's a hack blows my blows my mind

2505
01:39:23,930 --> 01:39:22,380
there's like one John Carpenter movie I

2506
01:39:25,070 --> 01:39:23,940
don't like and I used to go back and

2507
01:39:28,430 --> 01:39:25,080
re-watch it just to make sure that's

2508
01:39:30,290 --> 01:39:28,440
true well and this film makes me want to

2509
01:39:31,790 --> 01:39:30,300
go back and watch everything he's done I

2510
01:39:34,490 --> 01:39:31,800
haven't seen that many I've seen the

2511
01:39:37,310 --> 01:39:34,500
Halloweens and that's about it I I've

2512
01:39:38,450 --> 01:39:37,320
seen uh vampires which is a whole that's

2513
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:38,460
the one that's the one I was like I need

2514
01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:40,080
to go back when I first watch I was like

2515
01:39:43,610 --> 01:39:42,000
what the [\h__\h] I'm sure I would find some

2516
01:39:45,530 --> 01:39:43,620
stuff to appreciate about it I heard the

2517
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:45,540
fog is really good so I gotta check that

2518
01:39:50,209 --> 01:39:48,480
out I haven't seen they live which I

2519
01:39:51,530 --> 01:39:50,219
heard is another brilliant brilliant

2520
01:39:53,390 --> 01:39:51,540
film as well

2521
01:39:55,850 --> 01:39:53,400
um so I'll definitely have to go check

2522
01:39:57,649 --> 01:39:55,860
those out um but Nick where can people

2523
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:57,659
check out everything you're up to buddy

2524
01:40:01,970 --> 01:40:00,000
and yeah give us any updates so for me

2525
01:40:03,770 --> 01:40:01,980
so uh you can find me primarily on

2526
01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:03,780
Instagram which is at and westermeyer

2527
01:40:07,010 --> 01:40:05,520
I'm on Facebook and Twitter I'm very not

2528
01:40:09,290 --> 01:40:07,020
active on Twitter

2529
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:09,300
um and Facebook I'm active on but you

2530
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:11,520
know but Instagram is probably best

2531
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:14,880
um also for my own log rolling uh you

2532
01:40:17,810 --> 01:40:16,320
know somewhere in the skies if you want

2533
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,820
to check out the movie Ryan and I worked

2534
01:40:22,910 --> 01:40:19,440
on please do what's on his YouTube page

2535
01:40:27,530 --> 01:40:25,550
that one um it was something that we

2536
01:40:29,390 --> 01:40:27,540
spent a lot of time a lot of love on

2537
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:29,400
um but also I love baking so if you like

2538
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:30,719
baked goods

2539
01:40:33,770 --> 01:40:32,639
uh and then Voyage theater company which

2540
01:40:35,090 --> 01:40:33,780
is a New York based theater company that

2541
01:40:36,350 --> 01:40:35,100
I'm a part of that's always producing

2542
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:36,360
new works and Ryan and I have worked

2543
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:38,400
with them before so go over give them a

2544
01:40:41,390 --> 01:40:39,840
like on Facebook

2545
01:40:43,729 --> 01:40:41,400
um we'd love to have you but yeah

2546
01:40:45,950 --> 01:40:43,739
Instagram is where it's at

2547
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:45,960
absolutely yes Voyage theater company

2548
01:40:49,610 --> 01:40:48,000
was such a pleasure working with you

2549
01:40:52,430 --> 01:40:49,620
guys and Nick and I come from a theater

2550
01:40:55,189 --> 01:40:52,440
background and the thing is a straight

2551
01:40:57,050 --> 01:40:55,199
up play in my opinion which I

2552
01:41:01,450 --> 01:40:57,060
appreciated so much about it it's 12

2553
01:41:04,570 --> 01:41:01,460
Angry Men in the Antarctic in space

2554
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:04,580
yeah what else can you ask for

2555
01:41:08,810 --> 01:41:06,960
all right guys I have to go if you have

2556
01:41:10,490 --> 01:41:08,820
a parent now thank you buddy thank you

2557
01:41:13,970 --> 01:41:10,500
for having me Ryan you're great all the

2558
01:41:16,250 --> 01:41:13,980
people came thank you so much uh yeah

2559
01:41:18,169 --> 01:41:16,260
keep looking up is that what it is that

2560
01:41:20,090 --> 01:41:18,179
it's you got it buddy oh you can find me

2561
01:41:22,370 --> 01:41:20,100
on your podcast when I was doing voices

2562
01:41:24,169 --> 01:41:22,380
absolutely you'll you'll hear Nick very

2563
01:41:26,330 --> 01:41:24,179
soon in some upcoming episodes as well

2564
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:26,340
thank you my friend I always appreciate

2565
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,320
your time value your opinions and we'll

2566
01:41:32,990 --> 01:41:30,000
talk soon thanks for having me bye

2567
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:33,000
everyone take care bye

2568
01:41:39,709 --> 01:41:36,960
and then there was one my huge special

2569
01:41:42,530 --> 01:41:39,719
thanks to Nick and Andrew both fathers

2570
01:41:44,030 --> 01:41:42,540
and have a lot going on it's still a

2571
01:41:46,430 --> 01:41:44,040
little early on the East Coast where

2572
01:41:48,109 --> 01:41:46,440
they are so they got kids they got stuff

2573
01:41:50,689 --> 01:41:48,119
to do but they gave us their time

2574
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:50,699
tonight to talk about the thing and um

2575
01:41:55,390 --> 01:41:52,560
I'm just gonna say this is now one of my

2576
01:41:58,250 --> 01:41:55,400
favorite horror movies I absolutely

2577
01:42:00,350 --> 01:41:58,260
loved it from start to finish everything

2578
01:42:02,390 --> 01:42:00,360
about it the writing

2579
01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:02,400
um the direction the special effects

2580
01:42:07,310 --> 01:42:05,280
practical effects I should say

2581
01:42:09,470 --> 01:42:07,320
um just a brilliant brilliant film I I

2582
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:09,480
don't again I don't understand why it

2583
01:42:13,970 --> 01:42:11,760
wasn't received at the time as well but

2584
01:42:15,530 --> 01:42:13,980
it is now and sometimes that sort of

2585
01:42:18,350 --> 01:42:15,540
happens with movies they don't really

2586
01:42:20,750 --> 01:42:18,360
gain traction or get their legs until

2587
01:42:22,910 --> 01:42:20,760
decades later when you can take it out

2588
01:42:25,010 --> 01:42:22,920
of the time that it was made in and when

2589
01:42:27,229 --> 01:42:25,020
it was released and all that stuff and

2590
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:27,239
look at it with new fresh eyes and

2591
01:42:31,250 --> 01:42:28,800
that's what we did tonight for you guys

2592
01:42:33,770 --> 01:42:31,260
I hope you enjoyed this review of the

2593
01:42:37,370 --> 01:42:33,780
thing this will be a film I go to every

2594
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:37,380
winter now to watch so there's that I do

2595
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:38,880
want to share a few things before I let

2596
01:42:41,450 --> 01:42:40,800
you guys go here tonight

2597
01:42:44,030 --> 01:42:41,460
um

2598
01:42:46,370 --> 01:42:44,040
see if I can pull this up this was a

2599
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:46,380
poster that Grant levock in the chat

2600
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:48,719
made Grant I cannot thank you enough

2601
01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:50,400
buddy for being here tonight I know it's

2602
01:42:55,250 --> 01:42:53,280
really late or early early in Australia

2603
01:42:56,930 --> 01:42:55,260
right now so thank you for being here

2604
01:43:00,050 --> 01:42:56,940
man and thanks for making this fun

2605
01:43:03,109 --> 01:43:00,060
little poster with me taking over as the

2606
01:43:05,870 --> 01:43:03,119
helicopter pilot I absolutely love it

2607
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:05,880
thank you thank you thank you

2608
01:43:10,669 --> 01:43:08,880
um and to let you guys know about what's

2609
01:43:12,590 --> 01:43:10,679
coming up on somewhere in the skies uh

2610
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:12,600
we have a new episode airing this Monday

2611
01:43:17,090 --> 01:43:14,639
it's going to be a brand new episode of

2612
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:17,100
witness accounts where you the listeners

2613
01:43:22,850 --> 01:43:20,400
call in and tell us your UFO stories and

2614
01:43:24,890 --> 01:43:22,860
we have we got some good stories coming

2615
01:43:28,490 --> 01:43:24,900
your way in that episode guys coming to

2616
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,500
you Monday uh we have a other UFO

2617
01:43:34,430 --> 01:43:30,719
podcast host that a lot of you are

2618
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:34,440
familiar with telling their UFO story on

2619
01:43:42,169 --> 01:43:37,440
the show for the very first time uh we

2620
01:43:44,750 --> 01:43:42,179
also have a Navy serviceman who had five

2621
01:43:48,109 --> 01:43:44,760
different triangular UFO sightings over

2622
01:43:49,609 --> 01:43:48,119
a naval base in California so be on the

2623
01:43:52,729 --> 01:43:49,619
lookout for that episode coming to you

2624
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:52,739
this Monday uh it is available right now

2625
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:55,679
for our Apple premium subscribers and

2626
01:44:00,109 --> 01:43:58,800
our patreons our patreon subscribers so

2627
01:44:02,629 --> 01:44:00,119
if you want to hear that episode early

2628
01:44:05,870 --> 01:44:02,639
you can do that right now at patreon.com

2629
01:44:07,669 --> 01:44:05,880
summer Skies or you can become an apple

2630
01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:07,679
premium subscriber

2631
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:09,600
um you just go to your Apple feed and it

2632
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:10,800
should be right at the top you just

2633
01:44:15,709 --> 01:44:13,199
click subscribe and it should take you

2634
01:44:18,290 --> 01:44:15,719
there to get the early edition of this

2635
01:44:20,330 --> 01:44:18,300
episode and bonus episodes I'm dropping

2636
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:20,340
a ton of new bonus episodes over on

2637
01:44:27,290 --> 01:44:23,040
Apple subscriber premium and also at

2638
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:27,300
patreon so check those out excuse me

2639
01:44:33,530 --> 01:44:30,719
again guys still getting over covid so

2640
01:44:36,410 --> 01:44:33,540
um uh it's been rough I'm not gonna lie

2641
01:44:38,390 --> 01:44:36,420
but I had to do this tonight and um

2642
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,400
let's see what else do we have operation

2643
01:44:43,250 --> 01:44:40,560
saucer and the UFO Island will be our

2644
01:44:45,770 --> 01:44:43,260
episode the following week where we

2645
01:44:49,310 --> 01:44:45,780
travel to Brazil to look at a ton of UFO

2646
01:44:51,229 --> 01:44:49,320
cases in Brazil and on the patreon and

2647
01:44:53,570 --> 01:44:51,239
apple premium subscriber feed we'll have

2648
01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:53,580
a bonus episode called The Mystery of

2649
01:45:00,530 --> 01:44:58,080
the lead mask ufologist a crazy crazy

2650
01:45:04,669 --> 01:45:00,540
mystery that happened in Brazil that

2651
01:45:09,229 --> 01:45:04,679
involved UFOs and two gentlemen uh who

2652
01:45:10,850 --> 01:45:09,239
were unfortunately found dead and uh who

2653
01:45:13,310 --> 01:45:10,860
went to investigate this case none other

2654
01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:13,320
than Jacques valet so that episode

2655
01:45:19,010 --> 01:45:15,840
should be premiering on the bonus feeds

2656
01:45:22,729 --> 01:45:19,020
on patreon and apple very soon so be on

2657
01:45:24,649 --> 01:45:22,739
the lookout for that and um I think

2658
01:45:26,930 --> 01:45:24,659
that's it guys I think that's all I have

2659
01:45:29,629 --> 01:45:26,940
for you thank you so much for joining us

2660
01:45:32,930 --> 01:45:29,639
tonight it on this very special edition

2661
01:45:34,850 --> 01:45:32,940
movie review of the thing here at

2662
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:34,860
somewhere in the skies thank you for

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joining us thank you to our super chats

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I really appreciate the support guys all

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of the money that you donate to the show

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goes right back into making it bigger

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and better and everything in between so

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that is always appreciated again if you

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01:45:51,950 --> 01:45:49,980
want to support the show you can do that

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01:45:54,290 --> 01:45:51,960
in the super chat you can become a

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01:45:57,709 --> 01:45:54,300
YouTube member below or you can join our

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patreon and our Apple subscribers my

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special thanks to Nick and Andrew and

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I'm going to leave you with a little

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funny clip that I put together here for

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you guys and uh other than that I'm just

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gonna say as always keep your feet on

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the ground but never touch wow

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mess that up let's take that again and

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action

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keep your feet on the ground but never

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stop searching somewhere in the skies

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for the thing

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have a great night guys thank you so

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